I'd classify this as a little bit of both. Posts like these make me wonder what is really going on behind the scenes. A post like this from a competing vendor who doesn't like the ESB term wouldn't surprise me as much. From a consulting firm, it's more surprising. I'm guessing he's growing tired of having to explain the nebulous term of ESB to his clients. That's probably not something he could post on, though. David Linthicum recently had a post on one of his blogs entitled SOA old school or SOA new school, and really railed on the former EAI vendors as well. There must be something in the water... or one of those trailers. :)
-tb --- In [email protected], "Gervas Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Todd, > > Would you classify this as a sample of "generic" stuff/fluff or a > hard-core techy confession? Come to think of it, you know those > long, slim tube-like trailers one sometimes sees on the > motorway/highway that I always assumed were for transporting > gliders.... > > Gervas > > --- In [email protected], Todd Biske > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The latest posting from Jeff Schneider's (of MomentumSI) blog: > > > > "I Hid the Turd" > > Dear Mr. CIO, > > I regret to inform you that I've been hiding a massive turd from > you and the > > business units for several years now. The turd is the "3-tiered > silo > > application". The stench was horrid - I was forced to get some > industrial > > grade air fresheners that I called "EAI and ETL". I feel very bad > about > > this, as does my staff. Although, there were several times where > you called > > us into meetings and we all had those 'shit-ass grins' on our face > and you > > thought we were making fun of you - good news - we weren't, we > were laughing > > about our hidden turd. > > > > But I don't take all the blame. You remember when you asked us to > do 12 > > major initiatives and we told you that we didn't have the staff? > Yea - well, > > we didn't. So we cranked out as much as we could and patched the > crap > > together with messaging. From an architectural perspective, it's a > freaking > > mess!! We've got data replication, batch transfers, multiple > message > > formats, multiple transports, platforms, vendors - wow, I can't > believe you > > didn't fire us!! > > > > The reason that we are 'coming clean' is because we believe we've > found an > > answer. It turns out that using simple protocols and a network > programming > > model that isn't vendor specific will allow us to build connected > systems. > > Also - we discovered this other wacky thing - this new model > called SOA > > actually aligns to the needs of the business. > > > > Now that we're being honest with each other, I feel it necessary > to inform > > you that this SOA thing... is right, but - it actually takes a > bunch of > > planning and architecture. It's like - ya-gotta-use-your-brain- > kinda-stuff. > > And not to drop another bomb on you - but a bunch of these guys > around here > > are morons. Now, I know that you have deep pockets and short arms > and don't > > like to pay for real talent, but I think your screwed if you > don't. So, it's > > your call. > > > > In the meantime, the Turd guys, came up with this new turd- > containment > > concept that they call an ESB. I don't know what it stands for but > I talked > > to some smart guys and they said that it was supposed to be SOA > but the > > vendors missed their deadlines - so they just repackaged their old > turds > > with some new SOA stuff. So, just beware - were probably going > forward with > > the turd-containment stuff and later we'll have to go with real > SOA stuff. > > Sorry for hitting you with all of this. > > > > Sincerely, > > Your Entire Staff > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > A.G. Edwards & Sons' outgoing and incoming e-mails are > electronically > > archived and subject to review and/or disclosure to someone other > > than the recipient. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/NhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
