And yes, the difference is indeed between a service
that may be centralized and important in a given SOA,
and the architectural requirement for such a service. 


Thanks,

Eric

--- Gregg Wonderly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jan Algermissen wrote:
> > [1] Though I wonder if that is really possible,
> since AFAIK  
> > distributed systems usually need some sort of
> (eventually)  
> > centralized name lookup service and from a
> manageability POV, there  
> > should be some centralized form of 'credentials'
> management (e.g.  
> > NIS, LDAP) so they need not be spread across all
> nodes of a given  
> > system.
> 
> I think there is a big difference between a "central
> service" and a "centrally 
> important service".  I keep sensing a lot of CORBA
> ORB oriented references in 
> all of this SOA vs Object Systems.  I think there is
> an attempt at saying, 
> indirectly that SOA's shouldn't contain an ORB
> because that was a bad experience 
> for some (if not many) who didn't know how to build
> a distributed system.
> 
> But, I can only guess at these things, since I'm not
> them.
> 
> Sure are some very interesting and seemingly oddly
> focused comments about what 
> SOA really is floating around.
> 
> An SOA to me is an architecture where you have the
> freedom to add a separate 
> service to solve a problem just as easily as you
> might add a new function/method 
> to an existing API.  It's the software system that
> enables you to do this.  If 
> your system architecture is simply constructed as a
> composite, single process 
> system, where no parts can be separated to a second
> system to scale CPU or 
> distributed geographically to manage long distance
> latency or connectivity 
> failures, it's not SOA.
> 
> If your software development platform includes APIs
> that take the 8 fallacies of 
> distributed computing into account and support a
> software architecture and 
> associated APIs that encourage remoting of
> operations at whatever granularity 
> make sense, then you have the ability to create an
> SOA with that platform.
> 
> But, you still have to do the right things to make
> SOA a reality.
> 
> Gregg Wonderly
> 
> 
> 
> 


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