Eric Newcomer wrote:
> Gregg,
> 
> I am not sure how long you have been working in the
> industry, nor how familiar you are with the standards
> process. so I am not sure whether or not you know that
> the only true measure of success for a standard is
> widespread adoption. I can also tell you that

This might be the only measure that a vendor cares about because if they 
have a product that implements the standard they are in line to sell a 
pile of boxes.

But as an architect, I care about a bunch of other issues - widespread 
adoption might mean lots of tools to choose from etc but one of the 
things I _really_ care about is that it's fit for purpose.  And if I 
don't think it's fit for purpose and yet it's widely adopted I may be 
forced to use it and compromise my systems as a result.

Widespread adoption could just be the result of a large number of 
naive/in-experienced engineers choosing to follow the standard simply 
because it's an easy move as their existing app server supports it. 
That wouldn't say anything about the quality or appropriateness or 
innovation embodied in this new standard would it?

Of course, our industry is not full of naive, in-experienced engineers - 
couldn't be.  Except the number of new programmers each year clearly 
outstrips the infrastructure to educate them.  How many graduates out of 
university are ready for work?  Don't we all accept that they need 
experience before they are effective?  How many businesses actively seek 
to train their staff and ensure adequate resources and mentors etc?

So, sure your standard was a success but was it any good?  Did it 
improve anything or did it make the same old mistakes that've been made 
before?  If the same old people at the same old vendors with the same 
old products and the same old thinking produced these new standards just 
how much better and innovative might they be?

My two cents,

Dan.






 
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