Gervas Douglas wrote:
> Java, on the other hand, has probably turned out a far greater success
> that a hardware-centric company like Sun could have dreamt of - as we
> all know.  That does not mean that political and psychological factors
> outside the control of technical arbiters would always make it
> acceptable in a given situation.

Gervas, I truely know about and comprehend the cause and effect cycles of the 
best technologies not winning.  What I don't understand, is why many feel 
comfortable with that happening.

Jini, wasn't really ready for the mass market until JERI was in place in Jini 
2.0.  That release has all of the things revolving around security and 
configuration that make it possible to have much more automated enterprise tool 
suites for development and deployment.

We still get posts on the Jini-users list that mention that they hear Jini is 
for "device drivers" and other low level interfaces.  So, yes, the Sun 
marketing, was really bad.  The Sun engineers didn't have a say in the 
marketing 
strategy.  They complained, and have tried to recover, but it hasn't been an 
easy road, because they can't easily undo the harm done in the past.

Life keeps changing how we get to look at things.

 > We all know people who in certain situations prefer alternatives.  This does
 > not mean that they are necessarily naive or childish.

I don't recall hearing any stories from anyone who implemented a working Jini 
system with solid technical reasons (which there are some) why they couldn't 
use 
Jini.  The majority of people that I've seen on blogs or heard at JavaOne or 
elsewhere put down Jini in favor of something else have made very naive and/or 
childish arguments.

I'm not summarily saying that anyone not using Jini or not trying Jini has 
those 
characteristics.  I'm saying that so far, I haven't had significant feedback 
presented to me on the Jini technologies that makes the case for totally 
ignoring them.

If there is such feedback, I'd love to hear it.  Dan Creswell (and I to some 
extent) have been trying for years to figure out what tools or documentation is 
the biggest roadblock to Jini's acceptance.  Dan's created a lot of tools and 
documentation to fill the gaps that he's realized as important.

The biggest problem that I see right now is that the "industry experts" are 
pushing XML because thats where all the competition and money is at.  So, we 
get 
into these battles of whits and words over things that really should be about 
technology.

Technologies should improve our lives, not just put a new face on the same ugly 
wrappings...

Gregg Wonderly




 
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