Hi Mark --

I remember this very well. The problem wasn't the whole RPC / REST / IIRC or whatnot -- the issue was that Tim was speaking from a content perspective whereas the rest of the conference was speaking from an applications perspective and the semantic integration he was talking about was content-oriented, rather than applications-oriented.

It was confusing and it seemed out of place at the time. Besides, I thought it made sense to give Tim a bit of a challenge - he gets too many softball questions from all-too-adoring fans. The dude did come up with the Web, and indeed, it forms the basis for the thought processes behind REST. But if you recall, the conference was about Web Services, and his talk seemed out of place (and it was!) If it was a semantic integration / REST conference, I'da kept my mouth shut.

But analysts keeping their mouth shut? That's like asking tigers to become vegetarians :)
Ron

Mark Baker wrote:

On 9/3/06, Gervas Douglas <gervas.douglas@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can read an interview of Sir Timothy Berners-Lee discoursing on
> Web 2.0, hypertext et al. at:
>
>
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/n-gaa/message/867
>
> Now, if we could arrange a discussion between him and Mark on REST...

Come to think of it, one of my discussions with Tim about this was at
some OpenGroup event at the Hyatt Harbourside in Boston in the summer
of 2002, I think. And I mention it here, because he and I were
sitting together at a table, and Ron Schmelzer was up speaking and
said something about - IIRC - invoking remove procedures over a
network. As he said that, Tim and I looked at each other and shook
our heads disapprovingly, and Ron must have seen that because after he
was done he came over to ask what was up.

I expect that was the first time Ron received the REST elevator pitch 8-)

Mark.



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