--- In [email protected], "Steve Jones" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> This makes a big assumption that architecture is _just_ about
> principles.  In my view this is often the problem in that 
> architecture is so abstract that it doesn't really deliver value.  

Doesn't this depend on how abstract the principles are? I agree that 
if one gets too abstract, then it gets to be pretty worthless.

> When I look at the Business Service Architecture for a business 
> (100% not a design thing) then I can clearly see elements (e.g. 
> Sales, Finance, Procurement, "report sales" on Finance, "buy" on 
> Sales) that are part of the overall architecture of the system and 
> which can be directly traced down to the final implementation.  
> These things are not simply principles but are, to use a phrase 
> from Fred Brooks, the conceptual framework.
> 
> > You don't implement the architecture.
> 
> I agree that you don't implement principles, but you should be
> implementing the business architecture, otherwise how will the IT
> estate resemble and support the business effectively?
> 

One thought is perhaps "Business Service Architecture" isn't the 
right name. "Business Service Framework?" "Business Service 
Design?" "Business Services?"

-Rob

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