Some references on the multiple companies who are finding building their SOA
approaches using WOA would help.  I know of a few (Overstock.com for
instance) but these are far out weighed by those who are using WS-* as their
basis.

Now I agree that the technology approach is bunkum, but so are statements
claiming volume without numbers and references to back them up.

Steve


On 21/04/2008, Gervas Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Sounds like an exhortation for a farm horse, but apparently it is
> otherwise:
>
> <<A lot of analysts I respect have been pushing the concept of
> Web-oriented architecture, or WOA, of late. For those unfamiliar with
> the term, Dion Hinchcliffe has covered it extensively and Dana Gardner
> has been singing its praises. To be honest, it looked like a term in
> search of a foundation to this observer. We've already got RIA and
> composite applications and mashups and Web 2.0 and SaaS and SOA, but I
> figured I should ask a few architects what they think of the concept
> to see if it's got traction in those circles.
>
> Granted, I only polled half a dozen people (though I'll note here that
> they are half a dozen really smart people). The response I got from
> all of them is that WOA strikes them as redundant and nothing
> particularly new, an empty suit if you will. One wrote, "It reminds me
> a lot of the attempt by someone to gain some name recognition with the
> `SOA 2.0&#8242; concept (which one vendor did try to use and then dropped
> after it was rejected by the SOA community)." Another responded, "It's
> the same old thing, relabeled with an even MORE unwieldy name."
>
> Yet another noted, "This is just composite Web apps."
>
> Not a single one of them voiced a problem with the notion that
> Web-based development is an excellent place to concentrate your
> resources. In fact, some of the architects stated they are eagerly
> pursuing these sorts of development strategies.
>
> That said, no one showed any love for the "WOA" acronym. "God forbid
> this take hold because it could complicate something the industry has
> been trying to simplify," said one of the architects. He listed
> numerous reason why WOA, as a term, could do more harm than good:
>
> * Users should have exactly one enterprise architecture, many
> don't and they don't need the confusion of "which architecture should
> I use?"
> * WOA doesn't really have an underlying architecture, it's more a
> set of best practices around REST, RIA and composite apps.
> * If users perceive WOA to be outside the principles of SOA, it
> could prove an excellent vehicle for building Web-based stovepipes.
> * WOA toes and sometimes crosses the line of being technology
> driven. "We plan on using Google Apps, but Google Apps needs to fit
> into our structure, not the other way around."
>
> That last point about the potential technology driven nature of WOA
> was a point of contention for another architect. "One of the big
> problems we've had to fight is people who act as if SOA is tied to
> middleware or specific standards like SOAP or to a specific data
> format like XML. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Just because
> you've got some new technology to use doesn't mean you go back to
> shoddy engineering. Everyone should know better than to let a specific
> hot technology drive the bus. It will cool off and you still need to
> be in business."
>
> Strikeiron CEO Dave Linthicum has also blogged about the upside of
> WOA. He pitched WOA as a potential gateway to SOA.
>
> What is changing quickly is that enterprises are finding that the
> path of least resistance is in essence to build their SOAs on the Web,
> using Web resources, including content, internet delivered APIs, and
> Web services. Once there is success with WOA you'll see the same
> patterns emerging behind the firewall, or SOA.
>
> The polled architects viewed that as a perfectly legitimate approach,
> but one noted, "It's still SOA. I just don't see where WOA adds
> anything. Terms like this tend to make people in the field angry. In
> this case, it's an attempt to sell them something they've already
> bought. I don't know anyone who doesn't want to use REST or build
> composite apps using Web tools."
>
> Time will tell whether WOA gains traction, but these architects
> expressed an unequivocal desire to have no more than one
> something-oriented architecture in their lives.>>
>
> You can read this at:
>
>
> http://soa-talk.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/04/21/does-woa-bring-anything-new-to-soa/?track=NL-130&ad=636149&asrc=EM_USC_3509455&uid=5532089
>
> Gervas
>
>  
>

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