Thank you for clearing it up. Your findings is consistent with what 
I've been thinking. I'm using an "ESB" as a alternative to custom 
programming to create service interfaces to existing applications  
(resources) which does not already have service interfaces.

One more question. Did the company initiate the project as a SOA 
project or more of a investmentin social improvement?

H.Ozawa

--- In [email protected], "Anne Thomas 
Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Only a few companies talked to me about how much strategic progress
> they'd made. As I said in the presentation, the success stories 
were
> very inspiring. And they all involved an investment in social 
capital.
> One thing I found really surprising was that the people from the
> successful initiatives rarely talked about their infrastructure. I 
had
> to explicitly solicit the information from them. From their
> perspective, the technology was the least important aspect of their
> initiative. Typically, they built their services using existing
> application platforms -- they didn't bring in an ESB. I think all 
of
> them were using some type of management technology (e.g., 
Amberpoint
> or Actional). They rarely talked about design-time governance -- 
other
> than improving their SDLC processes. They implemented governance 
via
> better processes. Most of it was human-driven, although many use
> repositories to manage artifacts and coordinate lifecycle. But 
again,
> the governance effort was less important than the investment in 
social
> capital.
> 
> I'm still committed to my assertion that governance is critical to 
a
> successful SOA initiative--but only because governance is a means 
to
> effect behavioral change. The true success factor is changing
> behavior.
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:17 AM, htshozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Interesting article.
> > Just curious Anne, who decided is the project was a success or a
> > failure and what was the timeframe when the deciding data was 
measured?
> > Was it immediately after the project finished or was it may be a 
year
> > after?
> >
> > I'm just wondering because most people involved in the project 
will
> > rate it as a success. :)
> >
> > H.Ozawa
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Gervas
> >
> > Douglas" <gervas.douglas@> wrote:
> >>
> >> According to Burton Group vice president and research director 
Anne
> >> Thomas Manes, some users had executed nearly perfectly in terms 
of
> >> doing SOA on the IT side, but the initiative had yielded no 
increased
> >> agility, quicker time to market or project savings because the
> >> business remained completely oblivious to the initiative. Yet 
the
> >> study also found that users who do break down artificial 
corporate
> >> barriers, install proper governance and involve the business 
have
> >> runaway success stories to tell.
> >>
> >
> >
>


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