0) Remember the goal of governance is to improve things

This is the first rule that I put in all engagements, what is done
should demonstrably improve the situation if it doesn't then don't do
it.  Too often people create elaborate governance frameworks (or
application frameworks) for a set of perceived "perfect" needs when a
much simpler solution would be more appropriate for where they are.
These complex solutions then often create more issues as they assume a
perfect state.

Governance is a classic area where the CYA mob can drag down efforts
into the mire.

I'm a type A-C I think there is too little governance and what there
is tends to be focused in the wrong area.

Steve

2008/7/21 Michael Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Well, we already have a sort of a Civil War in SOA, why do not have a SOA
> Bill of Rights?
>
> Unfortunately, a SOA Bill of Rights is another policy... and enforcement in
> this case can come from those who disagree... "People have rights for
> information" -  It is only unclear how a country which preserves a right for
> private property, which recognizes information as a property, does not have
> a right for private information. I mean, a SOA Bill of Rights may be as
> controversial as anything else. For example, I would like to have a right
> having bagels instead of donuts...
>
> How about a Business Plan for SOA Governance? For the start:
>
> 1) separate governance function from management function
> 2) recommend rational set of governance controls (along the project
> life-cycle)
> 3) recommend minimal requirements for SOA testing tools
> 4) identify early stages where SO development must closely collaborate with
> business clients like Concept and Proposal stages
> 5) elaborate on end-to-end vision of SOA service
> 6) ...
>
> - Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mikomatsumura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:38:52 AM
> Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: Is Governance Killing SOA:
> Part 2
>
> Aha!
>
> I knew there was something clever in Jeff's overly simplified wording.
> A Rorchach test =)
>
> Jeff's follow up question about "too much Type A" is a reasonable one...
>
> My view is related to the concept of a "more perfect union" as
> mentioned in the preamble of the US Constitution (which of course
> establishes a Federated government).
>
> Thomas Jefferson speaks well to this topic:
> "Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from
> the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of
> Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429
>
> Enforcement of policy can either be the enforcement of a previously
> existing *agreement* or it can be a central mandate without any
> bilateral consent.
>
> Some forms of Governance are pretty clearly bilateral, such as
> enforcement of service level *agreement*. So contracts are entered
> into by two parties both seeking their own interest and therefore
> explicitly consent.
>
> So the policies that you are probably worried about are the ones that
> ostensibly arent enacted between peer groups--to some extent this is
> the function of the legislative group known as the COE (Center of
> Excellence) or Competency Center or whatever you want to call it.
>
> Now if you look at the establishment of the Federal Government in the
> United States Constitution, the implicit Jeffersonian "consent" is
> reflected in the fact that States have unlimited sovereignty while the
> Federal Government has explicitly limited sovereignty. Also, the
> Federal government has a tripartite structure including an independent
> judiciary as well as a legislative function which manifests consent
> through elected representation (congress).
>
> In fact, enough people were uncomfortable with the implicit
> Jeffersonian consent that the first ten amendments were declared (the
> Bill of Rights) to explicitly curtail the power of the Federal Government.
>
> Long analogy, but all I'm trying to say is there are good ways and
> crappy ways of creating and enforcing policy and the "consent of the
> governed" is a theme that is often lost.
>
> Maybe we need an SOA Bill of Rights?
>
> 1) Free Speech:
> some kind of annotation system that allows (wiki style) anyone
> affected by a policy to provide feedback (such as "this is stupid and
> here's why") for anyone to read
>
> 2) Right to bear arms:
> dunno... maybe squirt-guns? Someone proposes a dumb policy in your CoE
> and you get to squirt them with water?
>
> 3) Protection from quartering troops
> heh.. how about a rule against having more than fifty percent of any
> meeting be from IBM =)
>
> 4) Protection from search and seizure
> ...
>
> 5) Due Process
> Is there a need for an independent judiciary for SOA?
>
> etc...
>
> The only other right I would like to preserve is the protection
> against cruel and unusual punishment. This might limit the duration of
> CoE meetings to 2 hours and would demand the presence of snacks such
> as donuts.
>
> Miko
>
> --- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com,
> "jeffrschneider" <jeffrschneider@ ...> wrote:
>>
>> "Is Governance Killing SOA?" is my simple Rorschach personality test.
>> ---
>>
>> When you read the question did you understand the question to mean:
>> A. Is a LACK of governance killing SOA?
>> or
>> B. Is TOO MUCH governance killing SOA?
>> or
>> C. Is IMPROPER governance killing SOA?
>>
>> Although some people interpret the question to have other meanings,
>> it has been my observation that most people think A or B.
>>
>> After asking this a number of times, my informal results have led to
>> two distinct results:
>> 1. Enterprise Architects, I.T. Analysts, Press and Product Marketers
>> almost always interpret the question to mean "A" (lack of governance)
>> and
>> 2. Application architects, software developers and project managers
>> almost always interpret the question to mean "B" or "C" (too much or
>> poor governance)
>>
>> This begs the question, if Type "A" personalities get their way -
>> will the situation be improved?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
>
> 

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