+1.

What's odd is that the concepts of EDA have been around for quite 
some time yet, as so often seems to be the case, the A part is 
ignored and the majority zeroes in on implementations/applications 
(IMO, CEP is a type of application).

-Rob

--- In [email protected], "Gervas 
Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <<I attended the 1st International SOA Symposium in the Amsterdam
> ArenA at 6 and 7 october. The reason why I attended this symposium 
was
> because EDA came to the scene. But I really was disappointed.
> 
> Clemens Utschig-Utschig and Manas Deb (Oracle) together spent a
> complete presentation titled - "SOA and EDA" - to the subject. I did
> not one moment notice the architecture aspect during their talk.
> Clemens and all the others I listened to mention EDA and start 
talking
> about complex event processing; that is not architecture, that is
> technique. The clue with EDA is to drive your architectural approach
> from a business events perspective, just like SOA is driven from a
> business services perspective.
> 
> CEP is a way of processing messages (fair enough to name these
> messages "events"). That was clearly understood and explained by all
> of the "EDA-speakers". But EDA is about how business events drive 
the
> overall architecture of the IT-systems and it is about how these
> events should be modeled. EDA it is not primarily about the ability 
to
> process and correlate streams of thousands of messages per second as
> the speakers were trying us to believe. The real EDA paradigm was 
one
> step to far for all of the respective speakers, unfortunately.
> 
> Another misconception was that the speakers I heard were trying to
> convince the audience to only pass the references to data in the
> message, WRONG! One of the architectural principals behind EDA is
> self-contained documents that describe events. Passing references
> (primary keys) is a performance trade-off, not an architectural
> principal. Passing references creates dependencies to sources the
> might be out of your scope or control; it assumes knowledge of
> reference data. Passing references is a pattern toward tight 
coupling
> in stead of toward loose coupling.
> 
> My conclusion is that EDA is not yet well understood in the market.
> Perhaps next year?>>
> 
> You can read this blog at:
> 
> http://soa-eda.blogspot.com/
>


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