I always recommend a "think big, take small steps" methodology. So I
concur with the "take one small step at a time" advice. But I find
that many organizations forget the "think big" part of the equation.

Anne

On 12/18/08, htshozawa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, a little bit late but want to put my +1 with take it one step at
> a time. That's what I've seen too. Many companies are interested in
> doing one project at a time instead of one large enterprise level
> project. The trick is to have institute governance one step at a
> time. :-)
>
> H.Ozawa
>
> --- In [email protected], Michael
> Poulin <m3pou...@...> wrote:
>>
>> This is what I've received today by e-mail from the SearchSOA.com
>>
>> Gartner's Yefim Natis is sure that "SOA is integration". Are we
> getting anywhere with this opinion?
>>
>> "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have control."  -
>   sounds to me like you can make some money "in parts" (hey, it is
> the financial crisis, dude) and do not even think about approaching
> your Business telling them that they might make much more money if
> they do it top-down for the real business parts (that cannot be small
> by nature).
>>
>> Thanks to such "experts", "This past summer was a cold one for
> SOA". Indeed, a keyboard (especially, wireless) is not the best tool
> for nut-cracking; why we need it at all?
>>
>> What can we do to slow down spreading such Integration SOA madness?
>>
>> - Michael
>>
>>
>> FROM THE EDITOR
>>
>>
>> Gartner AADI Summit: SOA going into 2009
>> [Jack Vaughan]
>>
>>
>> Several years into the SOA era of application and integration
> development, SOA continues on without a full consensus opinion of
> what SOA is.
>> Yet there were plenty of takes on what SOA is at this year's
> Gartner's Application Architecture, Development & Integration Summit
> 2008 in Las Vegas, and while the definitions and prognostications on
> SOA remained diverse, a picture emerges.
>> It does seem one great trait of SOA is that it is an ongoing
> process. Its goal is to favorably and repeatedly change development
> outcomes based around logically partitioned services. It shares this
> goal with predecessor components, objects and elements of CASE
> methodologies. But it is different.
>> The idea that 'one SOA fits all' may be fading. "SOA is
> integration. It is a strategic initiative," said Gartner analyst
> Yefim Natis. "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have
> control."
>> One SOA at a time
>> At last week's Gartner Summit, Natis discussed varieties of SOA,
> and pointed to the fact that many companies are instituting SOAs, but
> they are doing so without a singular architectural blueprint for all
> IT. Some people, according to Natis, are starting to try to federate
> their 'domain SOAs' based on agreed-to interoperability protocols and
> transports that span the full organization.
>> Sometimes, things are best seen in comparison to what they are not.
> In this example, the 'anti-SOA' may be seen as the mainframe
> application of yore. Said Natis: "The monolithic application is the
> other side of SOA." In other words, a SOA is not part of just one app.
>> This past summer was a cold one for SOA, with critics tossing
> barbs, and denigrating aspects of SOA. Some criticism may be well
> placed. The Gartner conference brought to mind a paraphrase of an old
> Elvis Costello song: 'What's so funny about shareable, swappable and
> modular?' SOA is less a technology than a way to dependably extract
> business value from technology. It is a journey, and it involves work.
>> Read more about the Gartner Summit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gartner AADI Summit: SOA going into 2009
>> [Jack Vaughan]
>>
>>
>> Several years into the SOA era of application and integration
> development, SOA continues on without a full consensus opinion of
> what SOA is.
>> Yet there were plenty of takes on what SOA is at this year's
> Gartner's Application Architecture, Development & Integration Summit
> 2008 in Las Vegas, and while the definitions and prognostications on
> SOA remained diverse, a picture emerges.
>> It does seem one great trait of SOA is that it is an ongoing
> process. Its goal is to favorably and repeatedly change development
> outcomes based around logically partitioned services. It shares this
> goal with predecessor components, objects and elements of CASE
> methodologies. But it is different.
>> The idea that 'one SOA fits all' may be fading. "SOA is
> integration. It is a strategic initiative," said Gartner analyst
> Yefim Natis. "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have
> control."
>> One SOA at a time
>> At last week's Gartner Summit, Natis discussed varieties of SOA,
> and pointed to the fact that many companies are instituting SOAs, but
> they are doing so without a singular architectural blueprint for all
> IT. Some people, according to Natis, are starting to try to federate
> their 'domain SOAs' based on agreed-to interoperability protocols and
> transports that span the full organization.
>> Sometimes, things are best seen in comparison to what they are not.
> In this example, the 'anti-SOA' may be seen as the mainframe
> application of yore. Said Natis: "The monolithic application is the
> other side of SOA." In other words, a SOA is not part of just one app.
>> This past summer was a cold one for SOA, with critics tossing
> barbs, and denigrating aspects of SOA. Some criticism may be well
> placed. The Gartner conference brought to mind a paraphrase of an old
> Elvis Costello song: 'What's so funny about shareable, swappable and
> modular?' SOA is less a technology than a way to dependably extract
> business value from technology. It is a journey, and it involves work.
>> Read more about the Gartner Summit.
>>
>
>
>

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