It seems that your contributions as a Group on this subject have not gone unheeded in the august world of technical journalism:
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/mia/?p=533 Gervas --- In [email protected], "Steve Jones" <jones.ste...@...> wrote: > > Indeed. As I always tell clients > > Two things you need for a roadmap > > 1) Where you are > 2) Where you want to go > > Then you can proceed with little steps. The old Chinese phrase "A > journey of a 1,000 miles begins with a single step" is certainly true, > but I find its worth making that step in the right direction or you'll > look a bit silly in 1,000 miles. > > Steve > > > 2008/12/19 Anne Thomas Manes <atma...@...>: > > I always recommend a "think big, take small steps" methodology. So I > > concur with the "take one small step at a time" advice. But I find > > that many organizations forget the "think big" part of the equation. > > > > Anne > > > > On 12/18/08, htshozawa <htshoz...@...> wrote: > >> Hi, a little bit late but want to put my +1 with take it one step at > >> a time. That's what I've seen too. Many companies are interested in > >> doing one project at a time instead of one large enterprise level > >> project. The trick is to have institute governance one step at a > >> time. :-) > >> > >> H.Ozawa > >> > >> --- In [email protected], Michael > >> Poulin <m3poulin@> wrote: > >>> > >>> This is what I've received today by e-mail from the SearchSOA.com > >>> > >>> Gartner's Yefim Natis is sure that "SOA is integration". Are we > >> getting anywhere with this opinion? > >>> > >>> "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have control." - > >> sounds to me like you can make some money "in parts" (hey, it is > >> the financial crisis, dude) and do not even think about approaching > >> your Business telling them that they might make much more money if > >> they do it top-down for the real business parts (that cannot be small > >> by nature). > >>> > >>> Thanks to such "experts", "This past summer was a cold one for > >> SOA". Indeed, a keyboard (especially, wireless) is not the best tool > >> for nut-cracking; why we need it at all? > >>> > >>> What can we do to slow down spreading such Integration SOA madness? > >>> > >>> - Michael > >>> > >>> > >>> FROM THE EDITOR > >>> > >>> > >>> Gartner AADI Summit: SOA going into 2009 > >>> [Jack Vaughan] > >>> > >>> > >>> Several years into the SOA era of application and integration > >> development, SOA continues on without a full consensus opinion of > >> what SOA is. > >>> Yet there were plenty of takes on what SOA is at this year's > >> Gartner's Application Architecture, Development & Integration Summit > >> 2008 in Las Vegas, and while the definitions and prognostications on > >> SOA remained diverse, a picture emerges. > >>> It does seem one great trait of SOA is that it is an ongoing > >> process. Its goal is to favorably and repeatedly change development > >> outcomes based around logically partitioned services. It shares this > >> goal with predecessor components, objects and elements of CASE > >> methodologies. But it is different. > >>> The idea that 'one SOA fits all' may be fading. "SOA is > >> integration. It is a strategic initiative," said Gartner analyst > >> Yefim Natis. "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have > >> control." > >>> One SOA at a time > >>> At last week's Gartner Summit, Natis discussed varieties of SOA, > >> and pointed to the fact that many companies are instituting SOAs, but > >> they are doing so without a singular architectural blueprint for all > >> IT. Some people, according to Natis, are starting to try to federate > >> their 'domain SOAs' based on agreed-to interoperability protocols and > >> transports that span the full organization. > >>> Sometimes, things are best seen in comparison to what they are not. > >> In this example, the 'anti-SOA' may be seen as the mainframe > >> application of yore. Said Natis: "The monolithic application is the > >> other side of SOA." In other words, a SOA is not part of just one app. > >>> This past summer was a cold one for SOA, with critics tossing > >> barbs, and denigrating aspects of SOA. Some criticism may be well > >> placed. The Gartner conference brought to mind a paraphrase of an old > >> Elvis Costello song: 'What's so funny about shareable, swappable and > >> modular?' SOA is less a technology than a way to dependably extract > >> business value from technology. It is a journey, and it involves work. > >>> Read more about the Gartner Summit. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Gartner AADI Summit: SOA going into 2009 > >>> [Jack Vaughan] > >>> > >>> > >>> Several years into the SOA era of application and integration > >> development, SOA continues on without a full consensus opinion of > >> what SOA is. > >>> Yet there were plenty of takes on what SOA is at this year's > >> Gartner's Application Architecture, Development & Integration Summit > >> 2008 in Las Vegas, and while the definitions and prognostications on > >> SOA remained diverse, a picture emerges. > >>> It does seem one great trait of SOA is that it is an ongoing > >> process. Its goal is to favorably and repeatedly change development > >> outcomes based around logically partitioned services. It shares this > >> goal with predecessor components, objects and elements of CASE > >> methodologies. But it is different. > >>> The idea that 'one SOA fits all' may be fading. "SOA is > >> integration. It is a strategic initiative," said Gartner analyst > >> Yefim Natis. "You can only do it in parts of a domain where you have > >> control." > >>> One SOA at a time > >>> At last week's Gartner Summit, Natis discussed varieties of SOA, > >> and pointed to the fact that many companies are instituting SOAs, but > >> they are doing so without a singular architectural blueprint for all > >> IT. Some people, according to Natis, are starting to try to federate > >> their 'domain SOAs' based on agreed-to interoperability protocols and > >> transports that span the full organization. > >>> Sometimes, things are best seen in comparison to what they are not. > >> In this example, the 'anti-SOA' may be seen as the mainframe > >> application of yore. Said Natis: "The monolithic application is the > >> other side of SOA." In other words, a SOA is not part of just one app. > >>> This past summer was a cold one for SOA, with critics tossing > >> barbs, and denigrating aspects of SOA. Some criticism may be well > >> placed. The Gartner conference brought to mind a paraphrase of an old > >> Elvis Costello song: 'What's so funny about shareable, swappable and > >> modular?' SOA is less a technology than a way to dependably extract > >> business value from technology. It is a journey, and it involves work. > >>> Read more about the Gartner Summit. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >
