+1. Way wicked awesome. -Rob
--- In [email protected], "Alexander Johannesen" <alexander.johanne...@...> wrote: > > *grumble* > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 19:05, Michael Poulin <m3pou...@...> wrote: > > I believe that 'they' may not start "unifying view of customer, from the IT > > point of view" because it must be started from the Business point of view. > > It's comments like this and others of late here that is starting to > drive me a bit crazy. How the friggin' nutbolter can you people > decide upfront who is ready for SOA, what it is, where it starts, > when it's a success, how it works, whose tummy it tickles, what > length the rope should be, what components it must or must not > have, and on and on and on? No, don't point me to the consensus of > the list driven by strong opinions by people who seldom seems to > compromise their viewpoint, the strong opinions based on years of > experience which you've gained through being *your* kind of persons > dealing with people in *your* way (or even, being in organizations > that suit *you*), nor the standards bubbling out of the business > and / or IT surface based on 70% "sell factor" and 30% individual > opinions baked on "we tried this, and it worked, hence we must > standardize on this way of doing it." > > This thing is *not* a "this is the way it works"; it's a thing that > works from different angles, with different people and different > technologies, organisations and infra/extrastructures in place (or > waiting to be built). This is all more philosophies of being smart > about supporting businesses through IT infrastructure. You can't say > "it starts at the Business point of view", because that's just one > of many starting points. Sure, *you* have had success that way, yet > I bet there's people out there who's had success some other way (me > included). > > This is my plea; don't be so arrogantly sure you've got all the > answers, especially not the big, large and dismissive ones, because > there is *no* single right answer to such generic things as SOA. The > *discussions* here I love, but these big sweeping and most often > dismissive comments are a friggin' pain in the UDDI. > > *end of grumble* > > Oh, and a happy new year to all! > > > regards, > > Alex
