In other words, service interface is separate from service implementation? This 
is the core SO principle.

I'm still bearish on the notion that a service implementation can be swapped 
out for another with zero consumer impact. I've never seen a meaningful 
implementation of anything be swapped out without significant effort. Some 
low-level technical components can and have been swapped out but that's not the 
level we're addressing here?

-Rob

--- In [email protected], A W <ashra...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Usually service functionality is defined to serve any kind of consumer, if
> we fellow the best practice.
> let's take an example.
> So, we have a service that does reporting some thing like credit report.
> (business servcie that implementted in IT)
> We design a service to run the report in the provider side.
> The report service, from its contract, can be distributed to consumer either
> by web consumer, email client, or printer. the input to the report is the
> same for any consumer.
> The service functionality (the report itself) is run and produce the result
> that could be delivered to any of the consumers mentioned above.
> The report itself doesn't know any thing about the consumer.
> If there is a need to add a new consumer mechanism such as a hand-held
> device, so we can and another wrapper and access components without modify
> the service implementation at all. In addition, if we want to change the
> implementation itself, it will never affect the consumer at all.
> It is the almost same concept as of the strategy/adapter pattern, but the
> business people don't like this terminology of course. Just of explaination.
> 
> 
> *By encapsulating service access*, the provider gets the flexibility to
> change implementations over time or offer multiple implementations based on
> SLA requirements.
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> 
> Ashraf Galal
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Hitoshi Ozawa <htshoz...@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Question: Should services initially be designed for all consumers and
> > restriction on usage placed during deployment of a service or should service
> > restriction be considered during the service design. ;-)
> >
> > H.Ozawa
> > 2009/5/10 Michael Poulin <m3pou...@...>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>  HI Hitoshi-san,
> >>
> >> I do not distinguish between external/public and internal consumer
> >> audience in this case, maybe because I always worked for large corporations
> >> and with cross-departmental services. In general, there are the notion of
> >> service description - what service offers and how to reach its offer - and
> >> agreement between service consumer and provider on how to use the services 
> >> -
> >> the service contract. Real service orientation is in ability to solve
> >> external problems using internal resources (services, in this case).
> >>
> >> A service contract may be explicit and implicit.
> >>
> >> If we deal with a business service, i.e. the service that can affect
> >> business RWE, it is highly recommended to consumers to perform explicit
> >> negotiation with providers to make sure they do not have something in the
> >> services that can screw the consumers. For example, a business service 
> >> which
> >> has its UI exposed to the end-user might need to obtain results of special
> >> calculations and engages related service (within the same company or even
> >> division). It  may be a mistake if the engagement is done blindly because
> >> the calculation service may be using data from a database with low
> >> availability while the initial business service promises high availability
> >> to the end-users. That is, the calculation service can compromise the
> >> contract in its SLA part.
> >>
> >> If we deal with infrastructural service like security service, the
> >> contract may be implicit because security must be applied irrespective to
> >> the consumer's preferences, here is nothing to negotiate about.
> >>
> >> Now, if we limit services by 'the perspective of providers and consumers
> >> as defined by a contract', we are getting into situation where we have to
> >> have special 'service' for each consumer. Services in SO are developed and
> >> offered based on expectations of categories of consumers, not individual
> >> ones (though some of them can contribute into defining the service
> >> functionality at the beginning). The offer of the service is in the Service
> >> Description, the customization of service capabilities are in the Service
> >> Contract.
> >>
> >> If we accept that SERVICE=INTERFACE, all my explanations do not matter:
> >> interface is only what it is, it is self-describing but it does not provide
> >> any business functionality or RWE by itself. If we want to make any
> >> progress, we have to stop using 'Esope' language (saying 'service' when
> >> meaning 'interface')
> >>
> >> - Michael
> >>
> >> *From:* htshozawa <htshoz...@...>
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:59:12 PM
> >> *Subject:* [service-orientated-architecture] Re: JP on defining SOA
> >>
> >>  Hi Michael,
> >>
> >> Back from another assignment. :-)
> >>
> >> --- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. 
> >> com<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> Michael Poulin <m3poulin@ .> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > However, I have some problems with proposed SOA definition, in
> >> particular with "focuses on design of systems from the perspective of
> >> providers and consumers as defined by a contract. SOA-based designs
> >> introduce agility by enabling interchangeability of service providers
> >> without requiring process changes in the consumers." As we know, when we
> >> design SO architecture, we do not (cannot) anticipate the service consumers
> >> and scenarios where the services will be used. This means, we cannot talk
> >> about 'contracts' because the sense of this word assumes an agreements
> >> between parties; if one party is unknown, what the agreement may be?
> >> >
> >> True if we are talking about providing services for general audiences, but
> >> in most cases users want to limit who can use their services and only a few
> >> limited services are offered to general audiences.
> >>
> >> H.Ozawa
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >  
> >
>


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