On 19 July 2010 21:13, Alexander Johannesen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Meh. I find it very silly to blame "cool" REST for the state of "trad" WS-*. > > Steve mentions "If you had to do an integration between 20 different > programmes and over 300 systems in a heavily regulated area then you'd > use REST?" Yes, why not, since a lot of people are actually doing so?
Where? Seriously give me a few examples where people are integrating 300 systems in a heavily regulated industry using REST. > > Maybe the problem is one of context; maybe Steve and the Enterprise > world (although I suspect a very specific version of it) are missing > out on something? Maybe it's standing a bit still because there's only > so far you can go within it? Yup that'll be it. Its because we don't "get" REST. Or could the fact, and it is a fact, that the vast vast majority of integrations out there are being done via WS-* indicate that REST hasn't in anyway shape or form become as popular in the last 5 years as Web Services did in its first 5 years. This to me would indicate that the challenge is more a case of the solution not fitting the real actual problems. Steve > > Just a thought. > > > Alex > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All >> >> I am entirely with Steve in this post on the importance of contracts >> (Contracts really matter - without them everything becomes tightly bound >> no matter what people claim about "dynamism"). >> >> However, I wonder whether the concept of "contract" that we have (based on >> stating pre- and post-conditions) is sufficiently general and flexible to >> handle all the situations we face in defining and building service >> software. I have been thinking about this for a while, specifically in the >> context of extended service collaborations, and written a short paper >> (available at http://www.metamaxim.com/download/documents/contracts.pdf ). >> >> I would be interested to know what others on this list think about this -- >> in particular whether there is any experience of devising or using other >> kinds of software behaviour contract. >> >> Rgds >> Ashley >> >> > >> > >> > You can read this at: >> > http://service-architecture.blogspot.com/2010/06/rest-has-put-enterprise-it-back-five.html >> > >> > Gervas >> > >> > Reply to sender | Reply to >> > group | Reply via web post | >> > Start a New Topic >> > Messages in this topic (1) >> > Recent Activity: >> > New Members 4 >> > >> > Visit Your Group >> > MARKETPLACE >> > Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - >> > Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. >> >> > > > -- > Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps > --- http://shelter.nu/blog/ ---------------------------------------------- > ------------------ http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen --- > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
