On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, jon * wrote:

> > My point wasn't that Village was not a useful tool, just that you
> > need to answer questions without the phrase "Look at the source
> > code".  Since most people won't.  It's far simpler to write it
> > myself than to sift through someone elses code just to find out
> > whether or not it will do what I need.
>
> Like I said, we are talking about 50 lines of code here. The point
> of Village is that it is very light weight.
>
> (Side note: Also, it is a good idea to look at how other people
> write code because sometimes you might learn something useful. ;-) I
> know that I have learned quite a bit from other open source projects
> and would not have been able to do so unless I had looked at the
> code. In fact, I just read through the process of Apache JServ's
> custom class loader and learned quite a bit about how classes are
> loaded into the JVM.)
[ ... ]
> > Assuming you know where to look.
>
> I have included the url to village in almost every email on this
> subject.  ;-)
>
> <http://www.working-dogs.com/village/>
> <http://www.working-dogs.com/town/>
>
> On the page, is a link to the cvsweb interface.
>
> It is all in front of you, you just need to open your eyes. ;-)

Not to drag this out, but I wanted to offer my $.02.

It looks like "jon *" has contributed quite a bit of
interesting/useful stuff in terms of open source servlet-related
code/packages.  And yes, if someone has a question about how something
works, it is not too difficult to get the code and look at the source.

On the other hand, I think Chris'? questions here were very
reasonable, and don't really deserve a "check out the source yourself"
response.  Unfortunately, despite the benefits, it is not always
possible/practical to download a package before knowing something
about it and how it works.  And, to some extent, jon has been
"proselytizing" with his code :-), and asking for more information is
in line with that.

Personally, I as yet have not had the opportunity/need to check out
jon's packages, although I do plan to at some point.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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