Re: Fw: (is servlet really faster?) Php VsServlet,unexpectedresult,why?

[Alvin, lau]

hi, I spent almost 4 hrs to setup ibm vm (because I have to upgrade my glibc). After that, I started to do the test again. This time, I got an exception from jmeter and some error in my jserv's log. I tried to use jswdk instead of jserv, I still got that exception(I forget the name). I didn't have any problem when I used ie/ns to request that page and I didn't have any problem when I used blackdown jdk1.1.7. Why? Is there anyone using IBM VM, jserv on a linux box (suse 6.1)? It seems that IBM VM has some problems when a servlet is requested simultaneously or intensely. I am trying to ask some members of my team to use servlet, I need some figures to show that servlet is better. I do think servlet is better. But the fact is that they want to see. I cannot tell them if we use an expensive machine, then servlet is better. How can I ask them to use servlet on a big project when it doesn't handle a small project well. I'm going to do another test. And I hope this time java will win. rmi->servlet(apache, jserv)->client php(apache)->php(apache)->client I will post the results here when i finish. alvin -----Original Message----- From: Nic Ferrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: zondag 18 juli 1999 4:53 Subject: Re: Fw: (is servlet really faster?) Php VsServlet,unexpectedresult,why? >>>> "Alvin, lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/12/99 9:41:02 AM >>> >>hi nic, > >Hi Alvin > >>Okay, let me change the question, how can i make servlet run faster >than >>php? Which vm i have to use than, I'm using the one from >blackdown(1.1.7), >>is the one from ibm faster? do i have to change the servlet engine >like >>jrun(I'm using jserv, and jswdk-ea)? > >There are many issues other than VM as well. > >See Cezar's recent mail in reply to your message (his point about the >architecture of PHP is a good one). > >One of the most important things for us at BT was using Sun >hardware. > >I hate to say it, because I am a real exponent of free software, but >IMHO the best platform to run Java on is Sun. > >There VM is the fastest I've ever seen, but I must admit, I don't >know much about IBMs. > >There are lots of other things in addition to what Cezar has said: > >- Java's maths is faster than PHP >- the language is richer (most of Talk21 is actually static data, I >challenge you to do this in PHP) >- the link to native code for real performance is improved depending >on the version of the libraries you use (that's why Sun's is soooo >good) >- thread control is easy peasy and fast > >I could go on but the list is creaking already and the last thing it >needs is my hot air. > >If I were you I would do a more complicated test and run 70 or 100 >connections at it over a period of some time (hours). > >See how stable the two are in comparison and I bet with a more >complicated test (let alone a new VM) you're servlets will go >quicker. > > >Nic > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body >of the message "signoff SERVLET-INTEREST". > >Archives: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/servlet-interest.html >Resources: http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/external-resources.html >LISTSERV Help: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/user/user.html >