Hi,

Sorry, it seems that my first post didn't make it..... :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: Fabro, Loic
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 4:03 PM
To: 'A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet
API Technology.'
Subject: RE: 2 IP/Computer


Hi,

I am not sure that Andras is not lost now... ;-)

So sumup:
 => Apache

 it allows you run mutiple webservers on the same machine.
 Running multiple webservers on the same machine means:
   - same ip different ports
   - same ip same port (if you don't trust me, check that:
http://209.1.146.138/ ; http://www.ranch.fr.eu.org/ ;
http://salsa.notesetc.com; convinced? ;-) ) => IIRC, that does not work with
all the browsers (with the "old" ones?)
   - different ip same port

   - or a mix of everything! ;-)

 => for the two ips on the same box issue:

 most of the (server) operating systems allows you to have multiple ip
address on the same box. Either using multiple adapters and/or the same
adapter. This is called (IIRC) "ip-aliasing" when it is on the same adapter.

 But I can understand that due to the reasons of ip-shortage and
configuration possibilities you have on most of the webservers now the
providers refuses to give more ip addresses..... But, I know a company who
got a complete class C (and I am not sure they really need it...) a few days
ago so..... So, check with some other providers what they can offer you!!!
Also, check that your design really requieres more than one ip! (Help on the
ip-shortage issue!)


Hope That Helps!
Have a good day,
Loic.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Abhishek Basu Mallick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 12:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2 IP/Computer


well i'd like to differ with Dario in saying that 2 apache servers can be
run on the same system but they have to run on different ports. its as good
as having virtual hosts( which of course is a much better way of doing it,
as Dario has said).
and since your application is an internet app( i assume) in that case u
should be running all your servers on port 80 so that the user does not have
to define the port no.
so actually u dont have a choice of either virtual hosts or 2 apache servers
on the same system since in both the cases u'll have to have a port other
than 80.

and yes 1 computer cant have 2 IPs.

regards,
Abhishek BasuMallick
-----Original Message-----
From: Dario Andrade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 3:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RES: 2 IP/Computer


Andras, first of all, you dont need to have two apache servers running on
same computer (and that is not even allowed).
You can setup multiple virtual hosts (see apache doc for info).

The problem about the IP is real, and that really means some ISPs may
restrict you from using more than one IP without a valid excuse. As you
know, IP numbering availability is getting short...

Dario Andrade
WIZ Technologies
tel: (0xx21) 219-1138
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web site: http://www.wiz.com.br
wap site: http://www.wiz.com.br/wap

-----Mensagem original-----
De: A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java Servlet
API Technology. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Em nome de Andras
Balogh
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 20 de outubro de 2000 13:13
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Assunto: 2 IP/Computer


Hi all,

    Sorry for buthering the list with this off-topic question.
We are renting some servers in US to host our websites.
We have asked them to give us 2 IP addresses for 1 computer.
(we wanted to have two apache servers on the same comp).
They said that the American laws doesnt' permit to have more than
one IP address for a computer unless we have a good reason.
I said that the reason is to have half our sites in on IP with one
apache webserver and the another half with a different IP serverd by
a second apache.
    They refused to give us 2 IP-s.
Can somebody confim that this is realy true according to the
american laws??
I am VERY DISAPONITED becuase a lot of my ideas was based on
2 IP-s.
Also does anybody of you have computers (in US) with more than one
IP??

Thank You for reading my mail.

Andras.

P.S. when i said IP i ment real IP numbers not intranet IPs like
192.168.0.1.

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