You're right...
-----Original Message-----
From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why the people are so rude ?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Willard Thompson wrote:
> From time to time you are going to get redundant questions
> regardless of the archives.
This is true. But this doesn't mean we should give up trying to
reduce them, and/or raise people's awareness of the list policies, the
list archives, and other resources.
Also, addressing the previous poster's comments, there's a good chance
that if you're questioning yourself as to whether you've looked hard
enough and/or you're thinking about it, then chances are you have :-).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Lynn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Why the people are so rude ?
>
>
> ok, I really hate myself for escalating this, but how do you tell if
> someone did look hard for stuff and just didn't find it? And does
> your boss let you go out to the bookstore whenever you're unsure of
> something? Or will he buy every book written on Java for you? I know
> mine won't. And how long is long enough to look? I just posted a
> question about detecting if Javascript was turned on in a browser
> thatI've spent days trying to figure out in java servlets, jsp, and
> php... for all I know it could be in "O'reily's book of browser
> programming" or something else I never heard of and I just didn't
> come accross it.
>
> Anyway, point is that it's hard to say wether someone has really put
> in time or not and, since unneeded messages are so unwelcome here
> (as I was so vehemently assured of when I asked a perl question),
> perhaps it would be a better course of action for the simplest of
> questions of simply be ignored. That way they'll get the hint and at
> the sametime, noone has to wade through flames.
>
> Just an idea. Oh, and if someone abuses the list with too many poor
> questions, I'm guessing we can count on the moderator to take care
> of it, since, ultimately, there's nothing we can do to the poster
> except yell at him.
>
> ok, I'm done now...
>
> -Daniel
>
> T A Flores wrote:
>
> > It is not the people on the list who give the harsh replies that are
> > rude. It is in fact very rude to ask a question without attempting to
> > solve your own problem. As a rule before asking a question one is
> > supposed to search the archive or buy a book (well, if you go to the
> > bookstore you can read the book for free, even).
> >
> > Failure to search the archive, ask a very basic question, or generally
> > have the list members spoon feed information is the utlimate in
> > rudeness. If you search the archive you will find many who just answer
> > questions and never ask. . . Why? Because we have learned how to
> > search the archive and solve our problems.
> >
> > I have found that to do this job one needs a certain level of
> > analytical/critical thinking, creativity, PERSERVERENCE, and patience.
> > I don't know about the others, however, I RESENT having to spoon feed
> > others information. It has been said previously if someone hasn't
> > earnestly tried to solve their problem then they should not be asking
> > the list. DON'T BE LAZY.
[ ... ]
Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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