Whats all this talk about applets being dead? I hit web sites all the time
with applets. There is no shortage of discussion here regarding
applet-servlet communication.

Applets have their place. Stop insisting they are dead. Dead means 0, zero,
caput, gone... I wouldn't even say they are rare, would you?

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Miller, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So long, Java! How Sun screwed itself by suing Microsoft


Java's strength is on the server-side.  Not since the Java 1.1 days has
applets had any real popularity.  Even the most die-hard Java programmer
will tell you applets are dead.  The real question concerning the battle
between Sun and MS is not about client-side internet apps but who will win
the back-end distributed-computing fight....Java J2EE vs. .NET.  Java is
definitly out on the lead with this one--for now anyways.  Also don't forget
that Sun also has J2ME for cell phones, pda's and other embedded devices.

-----Original Message-----
From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So long, Java! How Sun screwed itself by suing Microsoft


On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Thompson, Willard (GTICCC) wrote:

> http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2791052,00.html

This is stupid.  Sun/Java is no worse off than if Sun hadn't sued
Microsoft.  If they hadn't, Microsoft wouldn't have done Java right,
so it would've been working against Sun/Java anyway.  Better Sun sue
than just sit back and take it.  I don't think Java will die (as
others have said, it can be used server-side regardless), but to
achieve the prominence originally conceived, it will take a
combination of PR, and pressure from hardware vendors, software
developers, and end users to make things as easy/available as possible
-- inertia is a hard thing to battle, and Microsoft has the power to
make sure it is always on their side.

The guy does have a point that Sun/Java never quite delivered on some
of its promises though.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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