No, you're right for the most part. However, considering resources and
systems development "Java Programmers" look at beans, servlets, jsp's, ...,
etc. for developing web applications. If there are particular situations
where applets are required then "Java Programmers" would look into
developing an applet. I think this is what Brent was trying to say. But
yeah, actually applets are in a lot of web pages so I agree they're not
dead. As a matter of fact for developing cool fancy front-end stuff I would
definitely consider applets.
-----Original Message-----
From: Godbey, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So long, Java! How Sun screwed itself by suing Microsoft
Whats all this talk about applets being dead? I hit web sites all the time
with applets. There is no shortage of discussion here regarding
applet-servlet communication.
Applets have their place. Stop insisting they are dead. Dead means 0, zero,
caput, gone... I wouldn't even say they are rare, would you?
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Miller, Brent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So long, Java! How Sun screwed itself by suing Microsoft
Java's strength is on the server-side. Not since the Java 1.1 days has
applets had any real popularity. Even the most die-hard Java programmer
will tell you applets are dead. The real question concerning the battle
between Sun and MS is not about client-side internet apps but who will win
the back-end distributed-computing fight....Java J2EE vs. .NET. Java is
definitly out on the lead with this one--for now anyways. Also don't forget
that Sun also has J2ME for cell phones, pda's and other embedded devices.
-----Original Message-----
From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So long, Java! How Sun screwed itself by suing Microsoft
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Thompson, Willard (GTICCC) wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2791052,00.html
This is stupid. Sun/Java is no worse off than if Sun hadn't sued
Microsoft. If they hadn't, Microsoft wouldn't have done Java right,
so it would've been working against Sun/Java anyway. Better Sun sue
than just sit back and take it. I don't think Java will die (as
others have said, it can be used server-side regardless), but to
achieve the prominence originally conceived, it will take a
combination of PR, and pressure from hardware vendors, software
developers, and end users to make things as easy/available as possible
-- inertia is a hard thing to battle, and Microsoft has the power to
make sure it is always on their side.
The guy does have a point that Sun/Java never quite delivered on some
of its promises though.
Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
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