On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote:

> Peters, Jim wrote:
> > Remove this guy from the list ...
>
> I can remove the email he used to post it, but since this list
> doesn't go through a moderation queue, I cannot do anything to
> prevent hime from coming back 5 mins later. In a way, this is good,
> otherwise, I would spend all my days sending approvals ;-)
>
> And of course, it all happens while I'm away.

Don't know if you're just speaking generally, but I don't think what
that person posted warrants being removed from the list -- or at
least, it's no worse than what some others have done (so if you did
remove them, you should rightly remove some others as well).  It was
just one transgression, and wasn't really that bad.  Certainly they
shouldn't be removed just because one person called for it.

Of course, it looks like they used a fake/anonymous/throwaway address
for that post, so removing them probably won't accomplish anything
(similar to your saying they can just resubscribe later).


> <general_statement>
> Also, this is not a job posting list. Please don't post job requests here.
> </general_statement>

If this is indeed the policy, it should be made clear in the list
policy.  And that policy should be made available somewhere (either
posted to the list regularly or up on the web somewhere, like the list
archive page -- it used to be there, but I guess it was removed some
time back, perhaps with the change in list moderators).  In fact, at
one time the policy was to allow job postings, as long as they were
brief, infrequent, marked clearly, servlet-relevant, etc.  But that
was a few years and a few moderators ago -- I found some posts about
it in the list archives; I also found one post from a then-moderator
saying they weren't allowed; either way, it should be spelled out in
the policy.

Personally, I prefer allowing them, under the restrictions mentioned
above.  The list policy currently does allow product announcements,
with such restrictions, and in some ways job postings are similar to
product announcements.

(Of course, this was a job request, not a job posting, which I think
shouldn't be allowed here.)

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Systems and Technology Services (STS)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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