On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:20, Maurits van Rees wrote:
> I'll give it a try.

Thanks very much for the reply.

> > I just installed the zope/plone combo src distro direct from
> > plone.org on a Kubuntu AMD64 Linux. This is Plone 2.5 & Zope   It
> > comes up OK and seems to work.  However, when adding new
> > products, some don't appear in the Zope admin page, primarily the
> > Quills blogging pkg, which was installed along with zwiki and
> > FAQulator, both of which showed up immediately.  Is there a
> > special install approach for this pkg? (Yes, I restarted zope
> > multiple times since installing the packages)
>
> The Zope admin page?  Do you mean the Zope Management Interface
> (ZMI), where on the left you see Root Folder, Control Panel,
> acl_user, etcetera?  And you don't see Quills in the box on the
> right with lots of entries and an Add button next to it?  Then the
> problem would be that Quills is a product for Plone, not for Zope. 
> So you should not install it in Zope, but in Plone (go to site
> setup, on the top right).

I meant the http://<server>/<SITE_NAME>/prefs_install_products_form
which shows a number of uninstalled and installed products that 
shipped with the distro such as  CMFSquidTool 1.3.0, CacheSetup 
1.0, ... TextIndexNG3 3.1.9, as well the installed products.

It says: To make new products show up here, put them in the 
directory /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products on the file 
system, and restart the server process.

which I did - the products are placed into that dir:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
525 $ ls -ld FAQulator FCKeditor kupu Quills-1.5RC3 ZWiki
drwxr-xr-x  6 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FAQulator/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FCKeditor/
drwxrwxr-x 20 plone root 4096 2006-09-11 23:46 kupu/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45 Quills-1.5RC3/
drwxr-xr-x 11 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 ZWiki/
22:35:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products

and after a restart, FAQulator, FCKeditor, kupu, and ZWiki are 
available, but there's no evidence of Quills (which is advertised as 
a Plone Product, not a Zope product).

> Note that Quills _should_ be listed in the Control Panel of Zope,
> which in my case is located at:
> http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/Products/manage_workspace

No Quills-related entries show up in the Zope Control Panel either.


> Does that help or did I misinterpret your problem?

You interpreted my problem perfectly but unfortunately while you 
suggested a number of good ideas (and I learned more examining them), 
none of them seemed to work.

> > Also, altho it's obviously installed (as part of the default) I
> > haven't yet come across a composition page which invokes Kupu or
> > the FCKeditor (which seems to have installed fine - I can set
> > prefs, see it installed in the Products page). Is there some kind
> > of config magic that needs to be invoked to call these into
> > being?  Dancing girls?  Goat sacrifice?  I'd love to try them
> > (the editors).  There's no sign of them in the zwiki, the page
> > composer, nor any page that I would expect to see this great
> > composer.
>
> First of all, not every content that you add to Plone has a rich
> text field that can be used by kupu or FCKeditor.  But yes, adding
> a document or simply editing the front page, should present you
> with a rich field where one of those editors should be loaded.
>
> I guess you haven't yet set the personal preferences for this user.
> Go to preferences, then click Personal Preferences.  This page has
> a selection box for Content editor where you can select either
> kupu, FCKeditor or a basic editor.  That should work.

This has been done for the admin, and two other users who I added.  
None of them has access to the editors, tho you can see that the 
preferences for them in each user's login.  This is quite odd.

> > Also, when using Konqueror to access the Plone pages, I get
> > complete CPU utilization by the Konq browser related to the plone
> > pages.  This doesn't happen with Opera or Firefox.  Is this known
> > or should I file a bug report?
>
> I haven't heard of this.  It is not clear upfront if this is a
> Plone problem or a Konqueror problem.  You may want to search the
> bug trackers of Plone and Konqueror.  Has anyone else heard of
> this?

I'll file a bug on this.  I'm using Opera now, but I'll re-run the 
tests on Konqy and firefox.


> > Also, and this is REALLY a newbie question, but where do you
> > change your password?  Not in Personal Preferences that I can
> > see.  I see that you can request a new, completely unguessable,
> > completely unmemorable password to be sent to you by email, but
> > if I know my password && I've logged in && I want to change it to
> > something else, is it possible to do that?
>
> The initial user that you used to create the Zope instance and
> probably the Plone Site, is a special user that is only known in
> the top acl_users folder of Zope.  You can go to the ZMI and change
> your password there.  

I looked at every option available but couldn't find anything that 
would allow me to change it (as admin)

> Changing the password for that particular 
> user in Plone is not possible.
>
> For normal users there is a "Change Password" link in the
> preferences of that user.

Not in my site there isn't (as a normal user).  This is begining to 
feel like a required chunk of functionality was left out of the 
installation, but my server log is clean..

> Related may be: Site Setup > Portal Settings > Password Policy.

Nothing there either...


>
> I hope that helps.  Feel free to ask followup questions on the
> list.

Thanks very much for the help.  I'll look around and see if I can find 
additional hints as to why I have these gaping holes.

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