Harry,

For Quills, IIRC, you'll need to change the name of the folder from 'Quills-1.5RC3' to 'Quills'

For the admin password, use the Zope Management Interface to change the pw, as you won't see a "Change Password" link for the admin (superuser) account's preferences. Non-admin (i.e. regular Plone accounts) passwords can be reset in Preferences -> Change Password

To change the admin pw, visit http://localhost:8080/acl_users/ manage_main , click "Users", then click "Password"

HTH,
Kamal


On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Harry Mangalam wrote:

On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:20, Maurits van Rees wrote:
I'll give it a try.

Thanks very much for the reply.

I just installed the zope/plone combo src distro direct from
plone.org on a Kubuntu AMD64 Linux. This is Plone 2.5 & Zope   It
comes up OK and seems to work.  However, when adding new
products, some don't appear in the Zope admin page, primarily the
Quills blogging pkg, which was installed along with zwiki and
FAQulator, both of which showed up immediately.  Is there a
special install approach for this pkg? (Yes, I restarted zope
multiple times since installing the packages)

The Zope admin page?  Do you mean the Zope Management Interface
(ZMI), where on the left you see Root Folder, Control Panel,
acl_user, etcetera?  And you don't see Quills in the box on the
right with lots of entries and an Add button next to it?  Then the
problem would be that Quills is a product for Plone, not for Zope.
So you should not install it in Zope, but in Plone (go to site
setup, on the top right).

I meant the http://<server>/<SITE_NAME>/prefs_install_products_form
which shows a number of uninstalled and installed products that
shipped with the distro such as  CMFSquidTool 1.3.0, CacheSetup
1.0, ... TextIndexNG3 3.1.9, as well the installed products.

It says: To make new products show up here, put them in the
directory /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products on the file
system, and restart the server process.

which I did - the products are placed into that dir:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products
525 $ ls -ld FAQulator FCKeditor kupu Quills-1.5RC3 ZWiki
drwxr-xr-x  6 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FAQulator/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 FCKeditor/
drwxrwxr-x 20 plone root 4096 2006-09-11 23:46 kupu/
drwxr-xr-x  7 plone root 4096 2006-08-29 18:45 Quills-1.5RC3/
drwxr-xr-x 11 plone root 4096 2006-09-14 22:37 ZWiki/
22:35:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /opt/Plone-2.5/zeocluster/client2/Products

and after a restart, FAQulator, FCKeditor, kupu, and ZWiki are
available, but there's no evidence of Quills (which is advertised as
a Plone Product, not a Zope product).

Note that Quills _should_ be listed in the Control Panel of Zope,
which in my case is located at:
http://localhost:8080/Control_Panel/Products/manage_workspace

No Quills-related entries show up in the Zope Control Panel either.


Does that help or did I misinterpret your problem?

You interpreted my problem perfectly but unfortunately while you
suggested a number of good ideas (and I learned more examining them),
none of them seemed to work.

Also, altho it's obviously installed (as part of the default) I
haven't yet come across a composition page which invokes Kupu or
the FCKeditor (which seems to have installed fine - I can set
prefs, see it installed in the Products page). Is there some kind
of config magic that needs to be invoked to call these into
being?  Dancing girls?  Goat sacrifice?  I'd love to try them
(the editors).  There's no sign of them in the zwiki, the page
composer, nor any page that I would expect to see this great
composer.

First of all, not every content that you add to Plone has a rich
text field that can be used by kupu or FCKeditor.  But yes, adding
a document or simply editing the front page, should present you
with a rich field where one of those editors should be loaded.

I guess you haven't yet set the personal preferences for this user.
Go to preferences, then click Personal Preferences.  This page has
a selection box for Content editor where you can select either
kupu, FCKeditor or a basic editor.  That should work.

This has been done for the admin, and two other users who I added.
None of them has access to the editors, tho you can see that the
preferences for them in each user's login.  This is quite odd.

Also, when using Konqueror to access the Plone pages, I get
complete CPU utilization by the Konq browser related to the plone
pages.  This doesn't happen with Opera or Firefox.  Is this known
or should I file a bug report?

I haven't heard of this.  It is not clear upfront if this is a
Plone problem or a Konqueror problem.  You may want to search the
bug trackers of Plone and Konqueror.  Has anyone else heard of
this?

I'll file a bug on this.  I'm using Opera now, but I'll re-run the
tests on Konqy and firefox.


Also, and this is REALLY a newbie question, but where do you
change your password?  Not in Personal Preferences that I can
see.  I see that you can request a new, completely unguessable,
completely unmemorable password to be sent to you by email, but
if I know my password && I've logged in && I want to change it to
something else, is it possible to do that?

The initial user that you used to create the Zope instance and
probably the Plone Site, is a special user that is only known in
the top acl_users folder of Zope.  You can go to the ZMI and change
your password there.

I looked at every option available but couldn't find anything that
would allow me to change it (as admin)

Changing the password for that particular
user in Plone is not possible.

For normal users there is a "Change Password" link in the
preferences of that user.

Not in my site there isn't (as a normal user).  This is begining to
feel like a required chunk of functionality was left out of the
installation, but my server log is clean..

Related may be: Site Setup > Portal Settings > Password Policy.

Nothing there either...



I hope that helps.  Feel free to ask followup questions on the
list.

Thanks very much for the help.  I'll look around and see if I can find
additional hints as to why I have these gaping holes.

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