Eric, The document was intended to be a dart board for everyone in the community (primarily those you mentioned above which have a vested interest in such a project) to well... throw darts at. It was just a proposal, certainly not any type of an actionable specification.
I sincerely apologize to all if my intent was miscommunicated - The project/community hierarchy is not the easiest to navigate as a layman, and I had hoped that using the lists would suffice. I had intended to spark more discussion concerning the topic and how we can address this as a whole, rather than as separate groups. I have spoken with some of those members - Lazlo Peter, Dennis Clarke, and Stefan Teleman. A project like this has a huge impact on many other groups, and I was hoping we could all meet and gather our thoughts and commit something for others to see. That said, I am not married to any specific plan or proposal, but I did put this together to show others my thoughts regarding how these issues could potentially be addressed. Steve On 5/10/07, Eric Boutilier <Eric.Boutilier at sun.com> wrote: > [ I trimmed the lists in the Cc to sfwnv-discuss and ports-discuss ] > > On Thu, 10 May 2007, Steve Stallion wrote: > > Eric, > > > > The document describes problems and/or missing features with each of > > the projects you have posted. > > framework to fill the gaps (namely distribution and support of > > source-build and pre-build packages) for *anyone* who desires to > > provide third party software, whether that is Sun, Blastwave, SFE, > > etc. > > OK, but the premise still seems invalid to me. Reason being, > from what I can tell, you wrote the proposal without first > seeking input from the key lead people from the projects > you're targeting. And not just SFW/CCD/JDS/Blastwave, e.g. Phil > Brown, Duvall, Hahn, etc., but also, and maybe even more > importantly, their counterparts in the projects under the > Installation and Packaging Community Group. > > Eric > > > > It is a middle ground for all of these projects to meet and > > define something that benefits the user rather than our individual > > egos. > > > > The intent of OPM is that it is a > > > > FWIW: There is absolutely no reason why pkgbuild would not be used as > > the build agent and was in fact, the original intent. > > > > SFW/CCD has its own separate issues, which Dennis Clarke (and several > > others) have been quite vocal about - particularly the fact that F/OSS > > packages are not suited for long term support of a single revision > > which is the traditional form in Solaris (hence the need for Blastwave > > et all to build and install their own *duplicate* packages that > > support newer revisions). > > > > If everything was working 'just fine' today, these types (and number > > of) projects would simply not exist. You do not see competing projects > > on other OS's (*BSD is an exccelnt example) because there is simply no > > need - the OS distribution has everything a user needs to support > > his/her own environment. > > > > The community has requested this time and time again. Several > > implementations exist today. We need to come to a common agreement, > > and move onto a single system. >
