As per my previous mail, I'll get an official response.
Bear in mind that patches were never part of the free deal, so building
up an infrastructure that was stable but which then required a patch (a
security update to Apache for example) would have meant buying support
or reinstalling an entire production setup with a fresh full download.
Guys, your comments are noted - give me a little time to come back to you.
Chris
Zeev Fisher wrote:
Hi List,
I would like to add my frustration here...
I built an infrastructure around SGD, wasted lot of time on bugs and
thought to buy support when everything is stable. My assumption was that
the product is free and will stay like it for fair amount of time
because of the reason mentioned below (opensourcing).
Now, not only the price cost money all of a sudden even without any
notice like RedHat did (also RH didn't change their policy so quick. I
used their free product for several years), but also the price is very
expensive.
I will be glad to see an official response.
Thanks
Zeev
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Dickens
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:57 PM
To: Sun Secure Global Desktop Users mailing list
Subject: Re: [SGD-Users] RoadMap
On 10/8/06, Christopher Saul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Blaster
Information on the SGD road map would typically be fairly confidential
until close to its release, as with most other software products - you
can't tell your competition what you're up to :)
SGD was available to use free in production use to enable as many
customers to get access to the software as easily as possible.
In reality, no customers would ever deploy without a support contract
or
access to patches and upgradable new releases - to do so you still had
to purchase a right to use licence and the appropriate support
contract.
Things haven't changed that much in terms of being able to get access
to
the software easily - the free download gives you a 30 day, 5
concurrent
user licence and if you need an extended eval licence, or a permanent
demo licence (if you're a Sun partner) you simply need to get in touch
with your local Sun office.
hmm, haven't chaged much you say? Its gone from email us, tell us how
many permanent free licesnes you would like, to now you are getting
extended "evalulation or demo" licenses? Seems like a huge change to
me. Just a few months later they are offering discount licenses and
acting like they are doing us a favor?
Sun lately has been trying build community and giving away software
and opensourcing, and making money off the related hardware and
support sales, many people are afraid that they are going to get
everyone to use there software then decide to change the licensing and
start selling the programs, the way SGD changed only serves to
reinforce peoples fears that sun really isn't into opensource and free
software and this is all just an act.
James Dickens
uadmin.blogspot.com
Chris
Blaster wrote:
It seems like getting SGD information out of Sun is worse that
pulling
teeth.
Why did is SGD no longer available for free?
It would be nice if the SGD developers would participate in this
group
as much as the Sunray developers do in the SR mailing list.
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Young
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:29 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [SGD-Users] RoadMap
Interested to know if there is a roadmap for SGD releases? I
understand
that there is a new version in beta - does anyone know when this
might
be released? Specifically I am interested in the possibility of
creating individual launchers on JDS desktops for SGD served
applications? Maybe this is already possible, although I don't
think
so....
Marcus
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