I'm happy to report that I'm still a Sun employee and still working across my region selling SGD and Sun Ray.

I thought that someone from Sun had replied to the list to address this issue when we discussed it a few months back. If they haven't, I'll ask one of the product managers if they can make a statement. Bear in mind that I'm part of a sales team in the field, not a product manager for SGD, so I can't make any statements myself, or force anyone else to contact the list.

Chris

Blaster wrote:
If you find one, let us know.


There is the SGD forum on Sun's website which gets a little bit of traffic.
I imagine there'd be more people using both the product (although I have
no means myself to determine that particular quantity) and this mailing
list if Sun would make SGD available under the same terms as Solaris and
the Java Enterprise System instead of the limited trial period.

Jonathan said ALL Sun software is free for the asking.  Has anyone asked?

We had a discussion about this issue about 6 months ago here.  Christopher
Saul from Sun was supposed to report back to the list on why SGD went from
not free, to free, and back to not free again.  I don't think he's been seen
on here since, so he might not even be a Sun employee anymore.

There's a few other issues as well:

1) The SGD group within Sun doesn't seem as community friendly as say, the
Sun Ray team, who's participation in the Sun Ray list seems to exceed even
the general populace.

2) The SGD documentation sucks.  SGD is very powerful and very complex piece
of software, but the documentation is horrid.

3) Sun has never been good at marketing, and it's real bad with SGD. No one
at Sun that I've spoken to knows what it is or what it does.  Everyone knows
about Solaris (of course!), Sun Ray, storage offerings, etc, but mention SGD
and you get dumb looks.




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