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--- Jim Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arnie,
>
> I'm sure you're right. . . but I also have an NT
> Proxy (P.S. II - on
> the same box - I've been booting around the 20 gig
> NT belmouth and using
> a 1.1 meg STN install from floppy!!) NT Proxy never
> gives this error.
> (i.e. the browser always waits for the connection.)
>
> Another thing I have noticed - lets say that the
> browser will wait 2.5
> minutes before giving up. . . STN often takes less
> time than that to
> get a good connection (say a minute to 1.5 min)
> Once it tries, it does
> not work, even after the connection is made, until
> it fails the first
> time and I re-try (via reload).
>
> I could understand this in the case where the ISP
> stinks, and it takes
> five min to get a connection. . . I would expect a
> time-out!
>
> I suspect that the initial request that initiated
> the dial-out was not
> being cached by STN, and ends up getting lost.
>
> Jim
>
> Arnie Rothenbaum wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I'm going to take a guess here.
> >
> > Your workstation running the browser always thinks
> it's connected to the
> > net. The winsock is loaded and Netscape / IE sees
> this as connected.
> >
> > When you pass the URL request to STN it says "time
> to make the donuts"
> > and
> > dials out, but the browser thinks it is already
> passed the URL request
> > out
> > to the net .... and waits for a response. It
> doesn't ask a second time
> > but
> > just waits. If you were to click reload a couple
> times before the
> > time-out
> > STN would have reconnected and you're hit the site
> with no error.
> >
> > This is no different than if you had dialed in to
> the net directly (say
> > through AOL, god forbid), minimized the AOL
> connection and ran Netscape
> > or
> > IE. Then AOL, while minimized said "Good-bye" and
> you lost the
> > connection.
> > Netscape and IE would just sit their and wait for
> the connection to that
> > URL
> > that you just clicked on. And wait, and wait,
> until it times out. Then
> > you'd realize that AOL kicked you off. Redial
> AOL, get back in and
> > retry
> > Netscape / IE again and it is back on track.
> >
> > I have a client using STN in another room that
> dials out. They don't
> > get to
> > hear the phone dial, nor do they hear the
> consistent hang ups and
> > redials
> > (because the ISP sucks and connects one out of
> five times) so they get
> > the
> > time-out error a few times. Although they usually
> just call in for
> > e-mail;
> > I make them load Netscape Navigator first. When
> they see the home page
> > load, it is ok to pick up the e-mail (as they are
> now online).
> >
> > Get cable or DSL and you'll never wait. You're on
> 24x7.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > Arnie
> >
> > Jim Harris wrote:
> >
> > > Here's one for the books. . .
> > >
> > > I have STN running. Dials out, works like a
> champ. I have an
> > > inactivity time out setting of "x" minutes.
> After "x" minutes, the
> > > modem hangs up. (as it is supposed to. . .)
> > >
> > > OK, say the modem is on-hook. I make a network
> request via my web
> > > browser. The modem picks up, dials, and makes a
> connection. (again, as
> > > it should.)
> > >
> > > Here's the beef: The -FIRST- time I try to use
> the browser to get a
> > > page, if the modem is not already on line, it
> -always- fails, even after
> > > picking up the line, dialing, and connecting.
> Once it is connected,
> > > (and Netscape or IE tell me that it cannot find
> the page/server), if I
> > > retry, it always succeeds. If the connection is
> already established, it
> > > always succeeds.
> > >
> > > WHY does it fail at initial connect?
> > >
> > > WHAT can I do to make it work?
> > >
> > > Thanks!!
> > >
> > > Jim
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