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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Burdett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ShareTheNet] Initial contact (dial on demand) fails
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> --- Jim Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Arnie,
> >
> > I'm sure you're right. . . but I also have an NT
> > Proxy (P.S. II - on
> > the same box - I've been booting around the 20 gig
> > NT belmouth and using
> > a 1.1 meg STN install from floppy!!) NT Proxy never
> > gives this error.
> > (i.e. the browser always waits for the connection.)
> >
> > Another thing I have noticed - lets say that the
> > browser will wait 2.5
> > minutes before giving up. . . STN often takes less
> > time than that to
> > get a good connection (say a minute to 1.5 min)
> > Once it tries, it does
> > not work, even after the connection is made, until
> > it fails the first
> > time and I re-try (via reload).
> >
> > I could understand this in the case where the ISP
> > stinks, and it takes
> > five min to get a connection. . . I would expect a
> > time-out!
> >
> > I suspect that the initial request that initiated
> > the dial-out was not
> > being cached by STN, and ends up getting lost.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Arnie Rothenbaum wrote:
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I'm going to take a guess here.
> > >
> > > Your workstation running the browser always thinks
> > it's connected to the
> > > net. The winsock is loaded and Netscape / IE sees
> > this as connected.
> > >
> > > When you pass the URL request to STN it says "time
> > to make the donuts"
> > > and
> > > dials out, but the browser thinks it is already
> > passed the URL request
> > > out
> > > to the net .... and waits for a response. It
> > doesn't ask a second time
> > > but
> > > just waits. If you were to click reload a couple
> > times before the
> > > time-out
> > > STN would have reconnected and you're hit the site
> > with no error.
> > >
> > > This is no different than if you had dialed in to
> > the net directly (say
> > > through AOL, god forbid), minimized the AOL
> > connection and ran Netscape
> > > or
> > > IE. Then AOL, while minimized said "Good-bye" and
> > you lost the
> > > connection.
> > > Netscape and IE would just sit their and wait for
> > the connection to that
> > > URL
> > > that you just clicked on. And wait, and wait,
> > until it times out. Then
> > > you'd realize that AOL kicked you off. Redial
> > AOL, get back in and
> > > retry
> > > Netscape / IE again and it is back on track.
> > >
> > > I have a client using STN in another room that
> > dials out. They don't
> > > get to
> > > hear the phone dial, nor do they hear the
> > consistent hang ups and
> > > redials
> > > (because the ISP sucks and connects one out of
> > five times) so they get
> > > the
> > > time-out error a few times. Although they usually
> > just call in for
> > > e-mail;
> > > I make them load Netscape Navigator first. When
> > they see the home page
> > > load, it is ok to pick up the e-mail (as they are
> > now online).
> > >
> > > Get cable or DSL and you'll never wait. You're on
> > 24x7.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Arnie
> > >
> > > Jim Harris wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's one for the books. . .
> > > >
> > > > I have STN running. Dials out, works like a
> > champ. I have an
> > > > inactivity time out setting of "x" minutes.
> > After "x" minutes, the
> > > > modem hangs up. (as it is supposed to. . .)
> > > >
> > > > OK, say the modem is on-hook. I make a network
> > request via my web
> > > > browser. The modem picks up, dials, and makes a
> > connection. (again, as
> > > > it should.)
> > > >
> > > > Here's the beef: The -FIRST- time I try to use
> > the browser to get a
> > > > page, if the modem is not already on line, it
> > -always- fails, even after
> > > > picking up the line, dialing, and connecting.
> > Once it is connected,
> > > > (and Netscape or IE tell me that it cannot find
> > the page/server), if I
> > > > retry, it always succeeds. If the connection is
> > already established, it
> > > > always succeeds.
> > > >
> > > > WHY does it fail at initial connect?
> > > >
> > > > WHAT can I do to make it work?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!!
> > > >
> > > > Jim
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