I have an @Home service from CWO in Australia and I do not have any problems getting a 
DHCP lease. However, during install I used TCPDUMP on the STN box to assist in the 
troubleshooting. @Home uses the Machine ID for DHCP lease/renewal.

'Linux' had major problems with DHCP as it used PUMP rather that DHCPCD for IP Lease. 
I could not get pump to work reliably with PUMP. Downloading and compiling the latest 
version of DHCPCD fixed all the problems. I can do multiple releases and renewals from 
both STN and Linux using the IFDOWN/UP scripts without any problems.

As to the differences between Linux/STN and Windows, the only difference is in the 
parameters that each system sends to the DHCP server. I assume that your provider 
allocates leases based on the Host Name so there should be no difference. It is also 
possible to send the OS type as a parameter, but Windows is not able to do this.

I hope this helps



-----Original Message-----
From:   Jim Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:03 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        [STN]  "Linux" DHCP vs "M$" DHCP???

I have noticed something interesting - this is not exactly a STN 
question - but as it affects STN users, I am tossing it out here on the 
table.....

I have noticed - on several different occasions (not just STN), that in 
a DHCP environment - Microsoft DHCP often works better and faster than 
the Linux counterpart - and I don't know why.

When I try to get a DHCP lease from my cable provider - (using win98 / 
winipcfg) I can do release/renew cycles - and get a lease almost 
immediately.  I can do a release - wait a while - do a renew, and get 
the lease in nanoseconds.  During initial boot - Windows negotiates and 
obtains a lease without difficulties.

Doing the same thing with STN - it boggs down.  This is true to the 
point that I cannot guarantee that STN will get a lease when it boots.  
In fact, it is virtually guaranteed NOT to get one the first time out. 
(I have to wait for it to start complaining, and reboot - at that point 
there is about a 65 to 75% chance it will get a lease.  If it fails the 
second time and I reboot again - it is 98%+ guaranteed to get a lease 
the third time.)

I know that this is -NOT- a STN problem - as I have seen this in 
"closed" networks for people I have worked for - where the Wintel boxes 
would get a lease instantly - and the Linux boxes would wither on the 
vine. (we ended up getting them static IP's)  I suspect that this is a 
generic "linux" issue. (at least with RH 5.n+ - I have not tried this 
yet with 7.0)

I am curious as to what is so different between "wintel" DHCP and 
"Linux" DHCP?

I do -not- know what kind of DHCP provider my cable company has - but I 
do know that their machine is running Apache - which makes me believe 
that it is probably a Unix box.

If I had a network sniffer - I could chase this down, but since I don't. 
. . .

Anyone have any ideas why???

Setup:
Latest and Greatest STN (reg version)
External network card is a 3Com 3905b-tpo (this card usually has no 
difficulties getting DHCP, as opposed to the 390x, which has nothing but 
troubles. . .)
Cable modem is a Motorola Surfboard SB4100
Cable provider is Charter Communications.

I am not providing any DNS or DHCP on the internal side.

I am requesting DHCP services on the external side.

My STN box is also configured to dual-boot to Win98 2nd Ed. using the 
same hardware in the same configuration.

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