Jim,

BOOTP is indeed different to DHCP. An easy demo of this is the DHCP server with STN. 
It will not respond to BOOTP requests. As Lyle points out, as DHCP is a broadcast it 
will not pass over a router unless BOOTP forwarding is turned on. Microsoft call it 
DHCH Relay. This works by sending the IP address of the relay agent so the DHCP server 
can work out if it has a "scope" or range of addresses setup for the requesting subnet.

Another possibility for your problem is the release of of the current lease your 
machine has. Is the host name the same under Linux and Windoze. Is this how your DHCP 
lease is obtained?? You may be getting reject packets if the lease has not expired. 
This is a problem with Cisco (The Microsoft of Networking) products. You can get the 
lease time from ipconfig/all (NT) or winipcfg (9X).

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jim Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Friday, January 19, 2001 1:22 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        RE: [STN]  "Linux" DHCP vs "M$" DHCP???

Extreemly interesting.....

Question:

I read somewhere (here?) that one of the (posible) issues is that the 
older DHCP client daemons (like in Linux), use the BOOTP protocol 
instead of the DHCP protocol.  (and my IT manager at work tells me that 
many admins (as well as routers, gateways, switches, etc.) don't like to 
pass BOOTP packets as they can be "chatty" (take up a lot of bandwidth - 
give out information - etc.)

Is there a seperate broadcast packet type that is "DHCP" instead of 
"BOOTP"?

Jim

Ian McDermid wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> TCPDUMP puts your Ethernet Adapter in permissive mode so it captures all 
> traffic passing it. You have to enable it in STN options tab selecting 
> debug support and tcpdump. Make sure you have RFC 1541 compliance turned 
> off (This is an Old RFC), and DHCP supplies Network Info checked in the 
> external interface box.
> 
> To use TCPDUMP you need to att/F8 or F9 and type in the password, Of 
> Mice and Men (Caps are important). You should get a # prompt. If you 
> them type tcpdump  -q you will start to capture packets.
> 
> DHCP works this way:
> 
> A  (DHCP Discover) packet is sent to the network. This is a broadcast 
> packet with an IP address of 0.0.0.0 and a type of BOOTP. The host name 
> is of the Parameters within the packet. Any DHCP server, or relay agent, 
> listening that is within the scope of the request will respond with a 
> directed packet (DHCP Offer) to the requesting MAC address. Multiple 
> servers may respond. One of the offers is selected and a TCP Packet 
> (DHCP Request) is sent to the DHCP Server. The DCHP server responds with 
> a TCP (DHCP ACK) packet. This completes the process.
> 
> What you need to look for are the replies from the DHCP server.
> 
> TCPDUMP is not very easy to use or interpret. I will have a play around 
> with some captures and filters
> 

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