Crap, you're right. Sorry about that. Thanks for catching that. Stefan
-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm the guy that always pops in to say "Don't forget the trans mounts are > different!" because I swapped everything over, talked with people on the list > who had done the swap, and talked me through everything, only to have the > transmission mount to the body not to line up correctly. Luckily I didn't get > rid of my parts car, I walked out to it at 11:30 at night with a flashlight, > and > saw they were set up differently. > > Matt Colwell > 86 T-Top Turbo~Z > 86 Turbo~Z Project: Daytona > 87 Shadow ES > 02 S~10 4X4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue, 1 May 2007 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: SD> Automatic to Manual swap or NOT! > > > I'm about to do the same on my 87 Sundance. Mostly because I just detest the > 3-speed so much (not to say it can't be made better it just doesn't fit my > driving style or how the car has been configured) So I've got a flywheel > ready > to go and I'm hoping to pick up an OBX diferential soon to go into the > 520/555 > hybrid that I'm thinking of building. > > Anyway, the consoles are the same between auto/manual, the auto gate just > screws > or snaps into place. So just pop it out and put in a factory boot from > another > Daytona/Lebaron or a boot of your choice. Make sure you fool the neutral > safety > switch or the car won't start after the swap. If you can't find a boot > locally, > let me know and I'll check my parts stash. > > The shifter bases and cables are vehicle specific, so you'll get to hunt down > those parts for your Daytona. I might have one for the older transaxles, not > the newer ones. > > Another issue you'll have to watch for is the K-frame mount for the extra > transaxle mount the 5-speed cars used. Not hard to add with a welder or you > can > swap K-members with a 5-speed car (you'll need to canabalize one to get the > pedal assembly, clutch cbale brackets, etc. > > If you need to replace the suspension bushings or you want to upgrade to the > newer style K-member and control arms (I would recommend this for the older > cars, just grab one from the same body style and match the uprights with the > K-member), 10 bolts and the K-frame is out and on the ground. I think > Polybushings.com sold a tab to weld onto the K-frames at one point. > > 5-speeds are all over the place but I suggest going for the newest one > possible > (meaning the A-523/A568) as they have better shifters and tend be less > abused. > Plus the 523/568 are essentially the same as the non-turbo neon transaxles so > their performance parts will fit (shifters, shifter bushings and > differentials) > Just watch the final drive gearing and the clutch spline count as 1991 was a > change over year on the input splines. The Spirit R/T clutch set seems to be > the hot setup for many people with warmed up street cars. For more serious > people, there are ceramic clutches, etc. > > Ideally you'd find a 91 or 92 5-speed turbo Daytona to steal parts off of, > that > way you can get the better brakes, suspension and 5-speed for your ride. > > Good luck, > Stefan Mullikin > Portland, OR > PNW-SDAC Founding Member > 1979 Porsche 924 (Carrera GTS Replica and GRM $2007 Challenger) > 1980 Fiat X-1/9 (never ending 2.2 turbo swap) > 1987 Plymouth Sundance Turbo (Daily Driver) > 1987 Shelby CSX #106 > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Chris VanKauwenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have an 86' Laser XT that is in excellent,untouched condition > (cosmetically). > > I've installed a few mods and now I'm left with a difficult choice. The 3 > speed > > auto kills my performance. I know Cindy and others sell a good 3 speed for > > around $1,500 (which I'm not afraid to pay). On the otherhand, my only > > hesitation to swapping out the tranny for a manual is the condition of the > > vehicle..... as the console and everything else is in excellent condition. > > > Are > > the automatic consoles in these cars the same as a manual console? Can a > > shifter boot be installed where the gear selection indicator is located or > > do > I > > have to swap out the whole console? I don't know if I'll ever find a > > manual > > console with the same features in this kind of condition (not worth it to > > me > if > > this is how it is). I'm picky like that : ) > > > > Any opinions on the above is appreciated...manual vs. automatic...and/or > > console tips. Driving the car would definitely be more enjoyable with a > manual, > > and it would be nice not to hear my engine screaming at 3300-3500 rpm at > around > > 70mph. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----------------------REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING---------------------------- > Questions? 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