Mr.David, Why are you trying to defend Umer's action ? the ahle Sunnah narrator have found him guilty for doing an act. Most people hatted Ahle Bayat (A.S) as their ancestors were killed by them specialy the Commmandar of the Faith full Moula e Kainaat Hazrat Ali (A.S) the Karbal was a revenge by Yazid (may Allah (SWT) curse him and his family) .
May Allah Send his Curse on Umer and the ones who follow him, and think he was on the right path. On 5/11/09, sheni...@yahoo.com <mgfso...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear AMM/Muhammad, > Salaamun Alaikum, > I am NOT a scholar but I thought I may add my 2 bits worth of thoughts > to this discussion. > Guy Fawkes's action is still celebrated to date by Britons. <Guy > Fawkes Night (also known as Bonfire Night, Cracker Night, Fireworks > Night, Bonny Night) is an annual celebration on the evening of the 5th > of November. ... > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_night> Check Google and you'll get > all the details on this historical incident, IF U R unaware of Guy > Fawkes. > > Society in all centuries has always "BOOED" a leader's bad actions. > Today U wouldn't tolerate your PM having a mistress or praising > Gorbachev/Iran, would U? You would "Boo" him surely. > If U say Hazrat Ali A.S. <your words: "By Allah, I believe Ali is the > first Imam to me"> Show me ONE small bad act/mistake Ali has done > since he was born, None. Except killing the enemies of Islam in > battles....Which is the basis of the treachery, greed, hatred and > enmity Ali had to face, loosing his right to khilafa, burning of Bibi > Fatimah Zahra's house which ultimately led to her death and the > progeny of Ali <the Imams after Ali> facing treachery throughout their > time > > And if one praises one or boos another, there is a VALID reason behind > this act. > I hope You will CONSIDER THE ABOVE FACTS,, and conclude rightly. > As a friendly advice, I suggest you read Dr Jaffer Tijani's books > "Then I was Guided ..." > Sincerely, > mgfso...@gmail.com > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On May 11, 1:19 am, Alex McDavid McDavid <muhammad...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Assalam Alaikum > > > > Dear Seyyid Rizvi > > > > The society of Medina was not all so bad that they can allow that to > heppen!!! Fatimah was not such an enemy of Omar so that all of such > atrocities to have fallen to him from Omar but Allah knows the best! Taking > in consideration that this story and their examples were taken only in the > Hadith or Historical books, they are not so correct, hence they are not a > part of revelation, they are from hearsay and not the Koran or something > which is not subjected to criticism. > > > > Me and You and Omar and other Muslims have good things in us and also > bad, Allah may forgive us our sins but please leave the dead people alone > and leave their amals and deeds to Allah, Allah may choose to punish or > forgive them, You are wasting all your time to abuse those who habve already > died instead of looking forward to amend or reconcilliate between the > Muslims and so make a strong Ummah. > > > > Omar has done many good things in his life, will you please or praise him > a little as he was praised by Imam Ali in Nahjulbalagha regardless of not > believing in his caliphate?? > > > > By Allah, I believe Ali is the first Imam to me but I do not discredit > the merits of Omar unjustly, I know that he has done allot of good for Islam > and I leave behind what bad he has done hence Allah is the Judge and not me. > > > > Thanks. > > > > MacDavid. > > > > Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:35:40 -0700 > > From: aeliariz...@yahoo.com > > Subject: [Shia Group] Fw: References of Ahle Sunnat pertaining to the > burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) > > To: ael...@gmail.com > > > > http://www.scribd.com/doc/95616/At-Ash-Eng?from_email_04_friend_send=1 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx > > > > -- Regards Hasan Baqar Rizvi --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "shiagroup" group. To post to this group, send email to shiagroup@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to shiagroup+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/shiagroup?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
