tere amma ne bhi to matam kiya tha Beating and mourning by the wives of the Prophet (s) Curiously, not a single wife of the Prophet (s) ever heard of this ban (as claimed by Nadvi in the previous reference). On the contrary Ayesha regarded by Ahl'ul Sunnah as the most knowledgeable women on Qur'an and Sunnah performed the following act when the Prophet (s) left this earth.
As narrated by al Tabari in History Volume 9 page 183 (English translation by Ismail Poonawala): *Abbas narrates: "I heard Ayesha saying "The Messenger of God died on my bosom during my turn, I did not wrong anyone in regard to him. It was because of my ignorance and youthfulness that the Messenger of God died while he was in my lap. Then I laid his head on a pillow and got up beating my chest and slapping my face along with the women".* Ibn Katheer al Nasibi in al Bidayah wa al Nihayah Volume 5 page 420 published by Nafees Academy Karachi records the event as follows: *"Rasulullah (s) died while he was in my lap. Then I laid his head on a pillow and got up beating my face along with other women".* Bidayah wa al Nihayah, Volume 5, page 420<http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/azadari/al_bidayah_v5_p420.jpg> Do we need to say anymore? Would the wives of the Prophet (s) indulge in a Haraam activity? Look at the beating ritual by the women of Madina. Ibn Katheer mentions how extreme that beating was that their faces reddened with slapping. What do the Nasibi say about these women? Were they evil Rafidi innovators lead by Ayesha? According to Musnad of Imam Ahmad Hanbal Vol. 6, page 274, Ayesha mourned the demise of the Holy Prophet (s) with other women by beating her head. An Arabs mourning before the Prophet (s) Malik's Muwatta Book 18, Number 18.9.29: *Yahya related to me from Malik from Ata ibn Abdullah al-Khurasani that Said ibn al-Musayyab said, "A Bedouin came to the Messenger of Allah, (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) beating his breast and tearing out his hair and saying, 'I am destroyed.' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Why is that?', and he said, 'I had intercourse with my wife while fasting in Ramadan.' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, asked him, 'Are you able to free a slave?', and the man said, 'No.' Then he asked him, 'Are you able to give away a camel?', and the man replied, 'No.' He said, 'Sit down,' and someone brought a large basket of dates to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and he said to the man, 'Take this and give it away as Sadaqa.' The man said, 'There is no one more needy than me,' and (the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace), said, 'Eat them, and fast one day for the day when you had intercourse.' "* Worthy of note is the fact that Darr Qathani in his Sharh of Muwatta Volume 2 (this tradition) adds that that *'he was placing mud in his hair'*. The incident should be considered in the light of the following facts: 1. The Bedouin being a Muslim was Sahabi (companion) of the Holy Prophet (s). 2. He was beating his chest and tearing his hair in presence of Holy Prophet (s) who neither objected to it nor reprimanded him for the same. 3. The action of the Bedouin was a result of spiritual pain he suffered as his fast was invalidated. 4. Sunni traditionists have authentically recorded this incident. The Bedouin's actions were a direct result of the agony he was going through. It led him to beat, his chest, tear his hair and place dirt in his hair. We suggest to those who deem mourning for Imam Husayn (as) Bidah to look at these Rafidi acts that were performed in the presence of the Prophet (s). If it was Haraam why did not the Prophet (s) tell him to refrain from such actions? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Syed Rizvi <baqarrizvi.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > WASALAM, > > I AGREE WITH YOU BUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS RELATED TO HAZRAT SHEHZADI FATIMA > (A.S) AND THE MOURNER, NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO COMMENT ON THAT. > > SECONDLY WHY ZULEKHA WAS PRAISED, FOR CUTTING HER FINGERS FOR THE PROPHET > (A.S). WHY HAZRAT AWAIS E QARNI (R.A) WAS PRAISED MY PROPHET (S.A.W.W) ? > > THOSE WHO ARE IN FEAR OF DISCLOSING THEIR IDENTITY DONT DESERVE TO COMMENT > ( WHY ISMAILIS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE SPEARED BY YAZIDIS) WHY ONLY SHIA > MORNERS STANDS TALL AGAINST THE DAJJAL ? IDENTIFICATION OF JUST (HAQ) > WHICH IT TAKE. > > WHY SAUDI AUTHORITIES FEAR THE SHIA'S THE MOST. WHY ISRAEL COULD NOT FIGHT > HIZBULLAH WHY ONLY IRAN SPEAKS FOR PALESTINE ? > > REGARDS > > > On 5/11/09, Alex McDavid McDavid <muhammad...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> ASSALAM ALAIKUM >> >> NO ONE CAN BE HERETIC BECAUSE OF THE VERDICT OF SHEIKH KALBANI, BUT THE >> REAL HERETIC IS THE ONE WHO DISREGARD THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN. >> >> SHEIKH KALBANI NEEDS TO DO HIS HOME WORK, HE IS DESPERATE AND EXCITED FOR >> HIS NEW POSITION AWARDED BY THE KING!! >> >> I ALSO CALL FOR MY FELLOW SHIA MUSLIMS TO BRING THE VOICE OF REFORMATION >> IN SHIA ISLAM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CREED OFTENELY TAUGHT IN OUR HAWZAS >> WHICH MAKE AHLULSUNNAH AND THE REST OF MUSLIMS RESTLESS, WE MUST STOP >> TEACHING THE CURCING OF THREE CALIPHS AND SAHABAS AND SHEDDING OUR BLOOD >> DURING MUHARRAM IN THE NAME OF MATAM AND MOURING FOR IMAM HUSSEIN!! >> >> >> WE MUST ALSO STOP CALLING THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN IMAMAT AS NOT >> MUUMINIIN, HENCE THEY PROFESS SHAHADATAYNM THEY ARE MUSLIMS AND THAT IS IT!! >> DOING CONTRARY TO THIS, BRINGS ALLOT OF MISTRUST AND MISJUDGE AMONG THE >> MUSLIMS AND THE REST OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. >> >> DO NOT GIVE THE CHANCE PEOPLE LIKE SHEIKH KALBANI TO DO THIS ENEMITY, BUT >> HENCE WE GIVE THEM ALLOT TO SPEAK, WE MUST PAY THE PRICE... >> >> STESTRTHE BLLODAZAWILLE >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:58:26 +0500 >> Subject: [Shia Group] All Shia clerics are heretics >> From: baqarrizvi.l...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> Imam of the Grand Mosque >> *Sheikh Kalbani: All Shia clerics are heretics* >> >> Sheikh Adil Al-Kalbani, the first black imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca >> excommunicates Shia clerics, saying they are not entitled to join the >> Supreme Council of Ulema, the highest religious body in Saudi Arabia. >> >> "I think Shia clerics are heretics," Sheikh Kalbani said Monday. >> "As for expiating Shias, we could possibly discuss it," said Sheikh >> Kalbani, who was appointed by King Abdullah last September as the imam of >> the Mosque of the first shrine of Islam. >> Sheikh Kalbani claimed that the Shias are not entitled to be represented >> in the Supreme Council of Ulema, arguing that the Saudi regime adheres to >> Wahhabism, a strict doctrine of Sunni Islam. >> “There are Shia in the kingdom, but it is a minority and they should not >> be included in the Supreme Council of Ulema,” stressed the Sheikh Kalbani. >> "Shias themselves do not recognize the Supreme Council of Ulema and they >> have their own Marja'iyya (reference, the highest Shia religious >> authority)." >> "They have more than their rights," claimed Sheikh Kalbani. >> The Supreme Council was extended last February to three other doctrines of >> Sunni Islam (Maliki, Hanafi, Chafii), whereas it was previously formed >> entirely of members of the Hanbali school known for its rigor. However, the >> Shia community is not represented in the Council. >> In recent months, Shia called for "the establishment of religious >> pluralism" and requested the entry of Shia clerics to the Supreme Council. >> Shias suffer discrimination, particularly being banned from holding key >> positions in military, diplomacy and security and from exercising their >> religious rites and cultural activities. >> Saudi Shia represent between 15% to 20% of the Saudi population which is >> estimated at 18 million. They are concentrated mainly in the oil-rich >> Eastern Province adjoining Kuwait and southern Iraq. >> >> End item/109 >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> >> Hasan Baqar Rizvi >> >> >> > > > > -- > Regards > > > Hasan Baqar Rizvi > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "shiagroup" group. 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