Assalam o Aeikum, Mc David has negated the cursing with out giving valid reasoning, this person has refered to fatwas of Grand Ayatullah with out any proof, secondly he do not beleif in Ghayabat e Imam (A.S). If you dont beleif in Ghayabat you have no right comment on cursing.
On 5/18/09, Sajjad Hussain Kargil(Ladakh) <sajju4unive...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > we have a law a pricipal that is Tawalla and Tabbara.. those who did > wrong we shuld send lanat on them no matter he is shia or any one else and > also shuld tawalla wd those who did wrng ..here wrng means nt every simply > guilts bt means greater sins. Jenab zahra was the daughter of Hazrat > Mohammed s.a.w to whom he s.a.w said , Fatima is part of my body . these re > many sunni books like al imama wa siyasaiyat , alfarooq by shibli nammni and > Moudoodi all those sunni writes talked abt the chalipates .. so dnt be > hasitate what they did was injustice . then why nt we send lanat on them , > to those who did nt gve chance to Prophet to write abt his last word.. who > nt alloweded... we shuld nt be like those means hyprocates ... every body > claims to work for uskla, bt we shuld see behind the curtians who is > claiming is he hussain or obedulah .. islam always divieded between > corruptes and correctes .. i kw there are many shias who are wrost than any > non muslim, but we shuld see every bdy wd the eyes of these principals ... > shuld try be like momin > w salam > sajjad > > * > Aey Khuda Dilo Say Yeh Juda Na Ho > Jub Talak Zahoor-e-Haq Na Ho > * > > > --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, بزم قلم ۔ یو اے ای <bazmeqa...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: بزم قلم ۔ یو اے ای <bazmeqa...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Shia Group] Re: Fw: OMAR WAS NOT SHAITAN!! ... burning of house > of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) > To: shiagroup@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 7:59 AM > > well said > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Alex McDavid McDavid < > muhammad...@hotmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=muhammad...@hotmail.com>>wrote: > >> ASSALAM ALAIKUM >> >> ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A SUNNI, I AM NOT A LIAR AND A HATER, I CAN UNDERSTAND >> WHY YOU CURCE SHAITAN, AS HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM AND THAT HE HAS BEEN AN OPEN >> ENEMY FOR ALL HUMANS AND SO HE DECLARED HIMSELF BEFORE ALLAH, BUT OMAR WAS A >> MUSLIM AND FOUGHT IN FAVOUR OF ISLAM AND IN FAVOUR OF ME AND YOU TOGETHER >> WITH ALL SAHABAS INCLUDING IMAM ALI (A.S), WHY CURSING HIM FOR WHAT YOU >> THINK WAS WRONG AND YOU ARE NOT SURE OF INSTEAD OF KEEPING SIENT ON THIS AND >> LET ALLAH JUDGE HIM IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT???? >> >> MACDAVID, MUHAMMAD >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:29:15 +0500 >> Subject: [Shia Group] Re: Fw: References of Ahle Sunnat pertaining to the >> burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) >> From: >> baqarrizvi.l...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=baqarrizvi.l...@gmail.com> >> To: >> shiagroup@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=shiagr...@googlegroups.com> >> CC: ael...@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=ael...@gmail.com> >> >> Wasalam, >> >> Why do we leave that ? why shatan is cursed when he had done alought of >> good deeds why you say " Aaozobillah e Minahshatan e Laeen er Rajeem" before >> reciting "bismillah". It is Tabbarah which comes before Tabbarrah. >> >> Regards >> >> >> On 5/11/09, *Alex McDavid McDavid* >> <muhammad...@hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=muhammad...@hotmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Assalam Alaikum >> >> Dear Seyyid Rizvi >> >> The society of Medina was not all so bad that they can allow that to >> heppen!!! Fatimah was not such an enemy of Omar so that all of such >> atrocities to have fallen to him from Omar but Allah knows the best! Taking >> in consideration that this story and their examples were taken only in the >> Hadith or Historical books, they are not so correct, hence they are not a >> part of revelation, they are from hearsay and not the Koran or something >> which is not subjected to criticism. >> >> Me and You and Omar and other Muslims have good things in us and also bad, >> Allah may forgive us our sins but please leave the dead people alone and >> leave their amals and deeds to Allah, Allah may choose to punish or forgive >> them, You are wasting all your time to abuse those who habve already died >> instead of looking forward to amend or reconcilliate between the Muslims and >> so make a strong Ummah. >> >> Omar has done many good things in his life, will you please or praise him >> a little as he was praised by Imam Ali in Nahjulbalagha regardless of not >> believing in his caliphate?? >> >> By Allah, I believe Ali is the first Imam to me but I do not discredit the >> merits of Omar unjustly, I know that he has done allot of good for Islam and >> I leave behind what bad he has done hence Allah is the Judge and not me. >> >> Thanks. >> >> MacDavid. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:35:40 -0700 >> From: aeliariz...@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=aeliariz...@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [Shia Group] Fw: References of Ahle Sunnat pertaining to the >> burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) >> To: ael...@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=ael...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *http://www.scribd.com/doc/95616/At-Ash-Eng?from_email_04_friend_send=1 >> *<http://www.scribd.com/doc/95616/At-Ash-Eng?from_email_04_friend_send=1> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> >> Hasan Baqar Rizvi >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- Regards Hasan Baqar Rizvi --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "shiagroup" group. 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