we have a law a pricipal that is Tawalla and Tabbara..those who did wrong we shuld send lanat on them no matter he is shia or any one else and also shuld tawalla wd those who did wrng ..here wrng means nt every simply guilts bt means greater sins. Jenab zahra was the daughter of Hazrat Mohammed s.a.w to whom he s.a.w said , Fatima is part of my body . these re many sunni books like al imama wa siyasaiyat , alfarooq by shibli nammni and Moudoodi all those sunni writes talked abt the chalipates .. so dnt be hasitate what they did was injustice . then why nt we send lanat on them , to those who did nt gve chance to Prophet to write abt his last word.. who nt alloweded... we shuld nt be like those means hyprocates ... every body claims to work for uskla, bt we shuld see behind the curtians who is claiming is he hussain or obedulah .. islam always divieded between corruptes and correctes .. i kw there are many shias who are wrost than any non muslim, but we shuld see every bdy wd the eyes of these principals ... shuld try be like momin w salam sajjad
Aey Khuda Dilo Say Yeh Juda Na Ho Jub Talak Zahoor-e-Haq Na Ho --- On Tue, 5/12/09, بزم قلم ۔ یو اے ای <bazmeqa...@gmail.com> wrote: From: بزم قلم ۔ یو اے ای <bazmeqa...@gmail.com> Subject: [Shia Group] Re: Fw: OMAR WAS NOT SHAITAN!! ... burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) To: shiagroup@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 7:59 AM well said On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Alex McDavid McDavid <muhammad...@hotmail.com> wrote: ASSALAM ALAIKUM ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A SUNNI, I AM NOT A LIAR AND A HATER, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CURCE SHAITAN, AS HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM AND THAT HE HAS BEEN AN OPEN ENEMY FOR ALL HUMANS AND SO HE DECLARED HIMSELF BEFORE ALLAH, BUT OMAR WAS A MUSLIM AND FOUGHT IN FAVOUR OF ISLAM AND IN FAVOUR OF ME AND YOU TOGETHER WITH ALL SAHABAS INCLUDING IMAM ALI (A.S), WHY CURSING HIM FOR WHAT YOU THINK WAS WRONG AND YOU ARE NOT SURE OF INSTEAD OF KEEPING SIENT ON THIS AND LET ALLAH JUDGE HIM IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT???? MACDAVID, MUHAMMAD Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:29:15 +0500 Subject: [Shia Group] Re: Fw: References of Ahle Sunnat pertaining to the burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) From: baqarrizvi.l...@gmail.com To: shiagroup@googlegroups.com CC: ael...@gmail.com Wasalam, Why do we leave that ? why shatan is cursed when he had done alought of good deeds why you say " Aaozobillah e Minahshatan e Laeen er Rajeem" before reciting "bismillah". It is Tabbarah which comes before Tabbarrah. Regards On 5/11/09, Alex McDavid McDavid <muhammad...@hotmail.com> wrote: Assalam Alaikum Dear Seyyid Rizvi The society of Medina was not all so bad that they can allow that to heppen!!! Fatimah was not such an enemy of Omar so that all of such atrocities to have fallen to him from Omar but Allah knows the best! Taking in consideration that this story and their examples were taken only in the Hadith or Historical books, they are not so correct, hence they are not a part of revelation, they are from hearsay and not the Koran or something which is not subjected to criticism. Me and You and Omar and other Muslims have good things in us and also bad, Allah may forgive us our sins but please leave the dead people alone and leave their amals and deeds to Allah, Allah may choose to punish or forgive them, You are wasting all your time to abuse those who habve already died instead of looking forward to amend or reconcilliate between the Muslims and so make a strong Ummah. Omar has done many good things in his life, will you please or praise him a little as he was praised by Imam Ali in Nahjulbalagha regardless of not believing in his caliphate?? By Allah, I believe Ali is the first Imam to me but I do not discredit the merits of Omar unjustly, I know that he has done allot of good for Islam and I leave behind what bad he has done hence Allah is the Judge and not me. Thanks. MacDavid. Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 09:35:40 -0700 From: aeliariz...@yahoo.com Subject: [Shia Group] Fw: References of Ahle Sunnat pertaining to the burning of house of Janabe Zahra (s.a.) To: ael...@gmail.com http://www.scribd.com/doc/95616/At-Ash-Eng?from_email_04_friend_send=1 -- Regards Hasan Baqar Rizvi --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "shiagroup" group. To post to this group, send email to shiagroup@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to shiagroup+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/shiagroup?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
