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Carmen


On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Santiago Gala <[email protected]>wrote:

> El mié, 15-04-2009 a las 15:57 +0200, Chris Chabot escribió:
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Vincent Siveton
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > 2009/4/15 Chris Chabot <[email protected]>:
> > > >> I spoke yesterday with Chris about the make-release.sh: this script
> > > >> won't work on my ubuntu box :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vincent I thought the fix was simple enough:
> > >
> > > Yes yes the fix was working perfectly :)
> > >
> > > > Saying that "it won't work on ubuntu" is a slight over-exaggeration
> in my
> > > > opinion :)
> > >
> > > Sorry if I offend you, my point was that the out-of-box script needs
> > > to be changed depending the platform used for the compilation.
> > >
> >
> > No worries, no offense of any kind is involved! I'm merely trying to say
> > that a sh shell is by far more pervasive then a java & maven combo,
> perhaps
> > I should've framed that differently :)
> >
> > The problem is that 'bash' isn't defined by the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy
> > Standard) on linux, the solution is to, instead of depending on a fixed
> path
> > (#!/bin/bash), I should either a) change it to #!`which bash`, which will
> > expand to the location of bash, or b) change the script to use #!/bin/sh,
> > which is present on pretty much any *nix platform we care about (*bsd,
> > linux, mac, solaris, etc); So I'm likely to pick option b here.
> >
>
> In my ubuntu boxes bash is in /bin/bash, as it should. :) I'm not sure
> what the problem was. If it was the ubuntu-server flavor, it is quite
> minimalistic as it installs (not even python, for instance), so it might
> have been missing bash, and having other shell.
>
> > However sh will be installed on pretty much anywhere (except for win,
> who'd
> > have to install cygwin) and the same can't be said for java and maven,
> which
> > won't be present on most of the boxes that will be running
> php-shindig....
> > after all, if they had a complete java stack and maven installed that
> would
> > imply their likely a java shop and they would thus more likely be using
> > java-shindig :)
> >
>
> ubuntu needs frequently wiping of the java packages and install of the
> sun jdk for some applications to run correctly, in my experience. I lost
> some time fighting against openjdk and icedtea recently to be forced to
> install sun-java6-jdk finally to run some legacy java apps.
>
> Regards
> Santiago
>
> >
> > > > (i did make a mental note I should probably use /bin/sh though since
> > > > according to the FHS that should always be available, but i'll have
> to
> > > > validate that the script works the same on sh first before i can
> switch
> > > that
> > > > over)
> > > >
> > > > Using Maven will be more platform independent, but Chris underlines
> me
> > > >> that the Maven assembly generates a different layout than the
> > > >> make-release.sh.
> > > >> So I modified the Maven files in r765148 to be align with this
> script.
> > > >>
> > > >> @Chris, could you review the generated and confirm that it is the
> wanted
> > > >> layout?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also commented that I think this is a "When you have a hammer,
> > > everything
> > > > looks like a nail" type of solution.
> > > >
> > > > Most people who use PHP probably won't have a lot of java and maven
> > > > knowledge, and are even likely not to even have a working java binary
> > > > installed, let alone feeling like installing maven and downloading
> many
> > > Mb's
> > > > of dependencies and we really shouldn't force that down people's
> throats,
> > > > not if those tens of megabytes, and different-environment
> dependencies
> > > are
> > > > just to solve something that can also be done with 20 lines of shell
> > > script.
> > > > That just sounds like a solution looking for a problem :)
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind that this script could be used to create a
> > > release-type-layout
> > > > of the directory structure and configuration files by anyone who uses
> > > > php-shindig, so the usage of it is far wider then just once to
> generate a
> > > > release tarbal, as such the whole java / mvn dep could only be worth
> it
> > > from
> > > > a php perspective if it offered significant benefits over shell
> script
> > > (or
> > > > even php based) one..
> > >
> > > I guess only Shindig devs could use this script to make a release and
> > > (I hope) everybody here has a minimum knowledge of java/maven :)
> > > If someone want to make a fork of PHP Shindig, he will probably create
> > > its own script to make its release.
> > >
> > > The script file works perfectly but it is platform dependent which is
> > > IMHO bad.
> >
> >
> > I can't agree with that argumentation. the sh shell is part of *every*
> unix
> > like instalation, where as maven is something people will have to
> download
> > the correct latest version of and install by hand; The statement that a
> > shell script using sh is platform dependent goes against decades of
> history
> > (sh has been a standard part and default shell of most unix systems since
> > it's inception in 1977)
> >
> > The only thing that somehow gave you that impression is that ubuntu (and
> > probably debian too by extend) have their bash shell in the /usr/bin dir,
> > and not in /bin... thats the *only* thing, and that can very easily be
> fixed
> > by using either `which bash` or using sh instead of bash.
> >
> > The nice thing of having a standard script is that if some OSS project
> > includes php-shindig (which quite a few do already), they can use that
> > standard script to wrangle the svn checkout to a standard layout that
> they
> > can include (and without the whole java tree). Depending on java + maven
> is
> > as un-natural to them as using a PHP tool for java packaging would be :)
> >
> >
> >
> > > We need 2 release managers to create artifacts, and I dont
> > > think it is the way to go.
> > > If Maven is too bigger, WDYT to use ant? It will be easy to integrate
> > > it in the release process.
> >
> >
> > I think the whole premise of using a java packaging tool for php is akin
> to
> > the hammer -> nail analogy... I see no problems with a release manager
> > running one shell script to create the php-shindig tar&zip archives, and
> I
> > think most everybody here would be comfortable with that, right?
> >
> >
> > > Do we want to centralize build under Maven, for all languages
> > > supported and for making release?
> > >
> >
> > Pros:
> > 1) Unified release procedure for both languages
> > (I'm not including 'platform independence here, since to me introducing
> > java+maven deps into the php world is a much bigger restriction then
> > depending on the sh shell)
> >
> > Cons:
> > 1) Unmaintainable by the php dev's
> > 2) Un-usable for 3rd party projects who don't have java/maven/etc but
> want
> > to do svn snapshots
> > 3) Using an overly complex solution for something that has a simple
> solution
> > available already
> >
> > So far based on the above +/- list my preference so far is to use the
> shell
> > script
>
>

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