full agreement here. > On Feb 25, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Rémi Palancher <r...@rezib.org> wrote: > > Hi there, > > There has been many discussions on IRC channel lately and some commits > about the setup.py in order to fix some bugs regarding pip and also > complains about its inner complexity. > > As a base statement to the following proposals, I think both distutils > and setuptools are clearly NOT designed to install complex distributed > daemons like Shinken. This has never been part of the goals of these > tools. Trying to deeply hacking them for such purpose is totally error > prone. > > Here are 2 things I think Shinken setup.py SHOULDN'T do: > > - Installing default init scripts: init scripts (and also systemd unit > files) must be considered as distributions and OS specifics. Paths, > shell functions, daemons launchers are not common on all distributions. > Requirements and constraints also change from one release of a > distribution to another. Writing working init scripts is hard, this > responsability should be let to packagers. > > - Managing files owners: users and groups management should be done > under the control of the package management system. Advanced package > management systems are able to track groups/owners of installed files > unless chown is done by scripts. > > I think that supporting 'pip install' or 'setup.py install' methods for > production use of Shinken is a bad idea. Some /magical stuff/ should be > removed from current setup.py so that RPM/DEB/whatever packaging effort > could be done easier with these limitations in mind. > > This is only my own personal point of view. I'm looking forward to > reading your feedback about these thoughts! > > -- > Rémi Palancher > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. > Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer > Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. > Network behavioral analysis & security monitoring. All-in-one tool. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shinken-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel
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