didn't see this come through though I sent it first "Mark A. Patton" wrote:
> You hit it dead on! Max's program (Many Thanks Max!) was the first that got me > to break through the whole "trajectory" thought and work outside the box. As I > didn't have a "high" lofted driver head, I pulled a 15* 250CC Ti 3 wood I had > and shafted at a driver length. Even with my poor long game, I saw a benefit. > > Now extending this, why in having such much more of a minimal effect, why so > much thought in shaft selection to lower trajectory? > > But back to the original thought: > If nothing else, you CAN at times get a macho feeling with this. When you are > say 5-10 yds in front and in the fairway vs your partner; and you notice they > used their driver you can always comment: > > "Boy was that tight, glad I chose my 3 wd" :) > > Mark > > Dave Tutelman wrote: > > > Mark, > > Good post, as always. > > > > You ask if anyone has done testing/demos. Well, obviously you have. But how > > about simulations? They can also make the same point you do. In fact, for > > many mid-to-high handicap golfers, the higher loft is not only more accurate > > but longer as well. > > > > I did some simulations using Max Dupilka's "Trajectory" program. The results > > are a graph in my club design notes at > > http://www.clubmaker-online.com/physics3.html. I'm sure they won't be a big > > surprise to most experienced clubfitters. > > > > Cheers! > > DaveT > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark A. Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 8:48 PM > > Subject: ShopTalk:Now Traj was SRV-II Update > > > > > Thanks for the review. Some of your comments as well as others from other > > > threads leads me to this: > > > > > > I see many references to people wanting to keep trajectory down (for the > > > driver). I know this is desired as while I play, I know I hear it enough. > > My > > > question is, has anyone done any testing/demos regarding this? > > > > > > Most any customer I solicit has this desire, but many times what they want > > is > > > their own destruction (I guess). For my feeble game right now, my best > > "driver" > > > is a 15* 3 wood with a 45" shaft. While certainly no monster on the > > swingspeed, > > > last weekend it allowed me to out drive my competitor 4X, but also hit 7X > > more > > > fairways. On average we are talking 250 yds on the fly. Before I racked my > > spine > > > (snap crackle pop for those of the ST Open) I had a 7 hcp (with 32 putts > > avg :( > > > ) and a avg driver distance of 275. > > > > > > In a nutshell, there are advantages of a higher lofted club when accuracy > > is > > > needed (please review earlier post regarding tests on distance vs accuracy > > off > > > the tee as well as any major book regarding loft and fitting). How many > > have > > > tested a longer and higher lofted "driver". I know as time/money allows, a > > 12* > > > Bang may become a test subject. > > > > > > Sad part is, evidently testosterone wins occasionally. I had a customer a > > couple > > > months ago who wanted a driver. I observed and demoed him. Though not > > needing a > > > lower trajectory driver, he wanted one. I built it for him cash on the > > barrel) > > > as well as allowed him to demo a higher lofted driver. Even though he > > posted a 5 > > > stroke lower score with the "high" lofted driver, the "lower" was it. He > > > accredited this to, "bad swing" (hmm only with the lower driver) as well > > as > > > other astronomical anomalies. My practical "test"did not succeed here as > > > planned. > > > > > > Fact of the matter is: We as club fitters CAN build a better club. We CAN > > (at > > > times) build a better game. We CAN build what the customer needs. We CAN > > build > > > what the customer wants. We CAN have a satisfied customer, it just takes > > us > > > realizing that w/o the help of a shrink, these items will not always > > align. > > > > > > Mark > > >
