What some clubs are doing is only counting tournament rounds towards their
handicaps.  Makes it a lot harder for sandbaggers to cheat that way.

Too many people out there only counting their crappy rounds towards their
handicap then turn it on for the tourneys.  Either you can try what I've
heard works pretty well above, or you can pretty much give up any
expectation of doing well in the tourneys.

Sucks but such is life.

-Dave

On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 01:07:15PM -1000, Steve Cub Culbreth wrote:
> RK,
> 
> That's why I changed our rules in Japan. Instead of moving them up a
> flight, we left them where they were and eliminated them from the Net
> Competition.  Still, did they care?! NO!  9 times out of 10 they would win
> the gross in their flight!!!  Can't beat the damn sandbaggers.
> 
> In my regular Sunday group, last Sunday, I had to give up a total of 29
> strokes just within my foursome (7/9/13).  That's friggin ridiculous. Of
> course they all walloped the heck out of me. The only satisfaction I had
> was when one of them pressed me on 18, because he got a stroke, and I
> thrashed him!!  One of the guys has moved between a 23 and 24 handicap for
> more than twenty years.  What's the odds that he hasn't improved?
> 
> Cub
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Richard Kennedy 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:38 AM
>   Subject: ShopTalk: Sandbagger's Open, DuPont
> 
> 
>         Well the Sandbagger's Open, other wise known as the "DuPont World
>         Amateur Handicap Tournament" is in town with the "Best" of the
>         sandbagger's in the world.  The low net round in the last men's
>         flight, #47 is a "59" that's 13 under on a course that supposed to
>         be set up for tournament play.  Low net in flight #27 is a nice
>         "53", no I never stuttered "53", That's FIVE THREE.  What gets me
>         is the handicap rule,"if you are more than 5 strokes under your
>         HCP then you must go to the next higher flight".  Well the worst
>         golfer, sandbagger, in flight 327 shot a clean 65.  Does that mean
>         that they have to move the 'WHOLE FLIGHT"?????  But the guy's who
>         shot better than 10 strokes under their HCP., which was 7 out of
>         the 10 in that flight, do they move them up to the next 2 / 3
>         flight?????  And when you shoot a net "53", NINETEEN UNDER PAR, do
>         you really care just where they move you???????  I Mean the higher
>         that they move you the better off you are.  Like the net low score
>         in the first 6 flights was a "71".  I think, but what does it
>         matter just what I think, they should move you up 3 flights and
>         give you a nice par round of '72' to start your next round with, i
>         mean 19 under par!!!!!!!
> 
>         Well I've got go and climb back under the covers and dream of nice
>         good honest golfer, ah hell I might as well stay up they don't
>         call it the 'SANDBAGGER's OPEN" for no reason.
> 
>         RK

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