Spine Positions? There is no such thing as Spines! Here's a blast from the past to prove it:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 12:52 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: New guys beware - was Spine Finding on Assembled Club To some of the newer folks, and those who are just starting to pay attention to the spine discussion, take care when consuming the pro spine data. The definition, detection, and affects of spine orientation have been discussed ad nauseam and those discussions can be found somewhere in the archives, I think. There is definitely a large and intelligent group of folks, however, that disagree or doubt that the affects of spines are, as has been described over the past few weeks here. Let me very very briefly describe what most all of us do agree on. First of all, spine is a misnomer except possibly in steel shafts. The comparison of a shaft spine to say, the human spine, is totally misleading. A shaft spine is a manufacturing flaw that can be detected by bowing the shaft and rotating it. The flaws can be caused by scores of things. The most notable are, shafts that are ever so slightly out of round, almost anywhere on the shaft, and shafts with inconsistent wall thickness'. The latter being caused by many things, from pre preg flag overlaps, to off center grinding. All of these factors can give a detectable "spine" indication. Most also agree that there is probably many of these spots on a shaft that would each qualify as a "spine", some being directly detectable and some not. Some say that the major "spine" that is detected is a mathematical collection??? of all of them put together. Please note that as we get further away from the basics, opinions also start to differ. Another area of general agreement is, if there is such a thing as a "spine" and it is detectable, for no other reason than consistency, we say you may want to align them. With graphite shafts with decals, cosmetics becomes a factor. With steel, "spining" should be of no negative consequence. Many also agree they can feel a difference. Now let me point out where many of us part from our "spiner" brothers and sisters. There has only been minimal scientific studying of this effect and the jury is far from in on the results. A recent, not so blind, study on feel was minimal in confirming a difference. Some initial testing on an Iron Byron did indicate the possibility of minor affects of "spine" alignment, but at this point in time, they are not near ready to make any statements on the pro's and con's of alignment. The one and only reason I break with my promise to myself, to stay out of the fray is, I have seen some discussion where folks not only are discussing that spines have a definite affect on ball flight, but also are now discussing how various positions of the "spine" can make or inhibit slices and hooks. Folks, I have not seen nor heard of any empirical data to confirm this. So as you read all the discussions on "spining", both pro and con, take it with a grain of salt. The pro spiners are respected and their opinions are listened to, and they MAY be correct in the end, but at this point, I and many others are very skeptical and are taking a wait and see attitude. Of course, that's only my opinion. I could be wrong. ;-) Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Reeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "clubmaker online" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Burrows Golf's fitting system > Ran across a neat fitting system. From what I can tell, it > looks like you could even position the shaft to test different > spine positions. > > Burrows Golf is the new kid on the golf block. <Marketing BS snip> > It's backed by some sound science, though, and an even more intriguing > part is Burrows' remarkable club-fitting system. Company officials have > devised special club-fitting demo models with which you can simply > unscrew the shaft from the clubhead, screw in a different shaft and > lock it in place with a small tool. (That threading technology, Bruce > Burrows told me, comes from Ferrari.) It takes maybe 30 seconds, then > you can go out and play with that club. Don't like the shaft? Come back > to the golf shop and screw in a different one and go back out. > > The system requires no real expertise by the club pro, and gives the > player the chance to easily test a variety of shafts. <Marketing BS snip> > The same gimmick also is used at the club's other end so a player can > try a variety of different grips. Counting grips and shafts and clubheads, > Burrows has 540 combinations. It's really ingenious. And you'll be hearing > more about the Powersphere. (Take a look at burrowsgolf.com.) > > Here is a link to their fitting system http://www.burrowsgolf.com/products_quick.asp > > I also have to include this from their web site. With their club, a > copper bracelet, and a Q-Link I bet you could drop 10 strokes from > your scores and drive the ball 25 yards farther :-) > > As a bonus benefit to those who wear copper bracelets, most harmful > energy is dissipated by the PowersphereT, reducing vibrations outward, > not up the shaft of the club, and thus reducing joint and tendon fatigue. > > /Ed >