This is what I thought might be my point of confusion. I was just trying to sole by the middle of the length of the face, not looking at the parallel-ness (that isn't a word) of the scorelines.
Cub - I do have it on a flat work bench. I know I'm making it difficult, but I'd just hate the idea of being off 1/4". I was comparing my clubs to the lengths of OEM clubs in the course pro shop and was noticing across the board that mine were short by over the grip cap length. I did verify the lengths of the OEM clubs. Also, a buddy uses a 48" ruler bolted to the table and a door hinge mechanism for the flange, and his always seemed to be 1/4" longer than mine. He set his up by comparing the ruler down the shaft method to his homemade method. Where this all started was I was trying to determine (before receiving new heads and removing old heads) whether I could use current shafts in new heads. I knew the hosels were different lengths, just by looking, and the bore depths were different. Trying to determine the bottom bore to ground distance is where the discrepancy started appearing. I wanted to know, ahead of time, if I was going to have to order a new shaft or two. And Lord knows, I can't stand anyone's being a quarter in longer than mine! ;-) Thanks for the advice, everyone. -Andy > At the Golfsmith clubmaking course, they teach the use of the TM, and the > proper technique is to align the flange with the score lines. Clubheads > are > designed so that the score lines are parallel to the ground when the club > is > in the proper playing position...depending on the sole design, the actual > "low point" on the sole may or may not be in the middle of the > club...enough > so that it would throw off the length measurement by 1/4" or so. > > Royce > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Ruigh > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Measuring - True Measure device > > > I actually measured the score lines from the flange when I sole the club > in > the middle of the clubhead, and they weren't parallel. Once I flatten it > out, I can get them parallel. I guess I always focused on the location on > the sole to make contact and not on the parallel scorelines. It worked > well > doing this. It matched up with the ruler behind the shaft method. > > -Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve "Cub" Culbreth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Measuring - True Measure device > > >> Andy, >> >> I've used a True Measure from Dynacraft for the past eight or more >> years. > I >> sole the club on the flange (sole plate), as do you, and the scorelines > are >> always parallel. I don't bother to test any other way. >> >> I don't understand why your scorelines aren't parallel as well. >> >> Cub >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Ruigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:06 AM >> Subject: ShopTalk: Measuring - True Measure device >> >> >> > I'm guessing this is a question more for the "hobbyists", as you pro's >> > probably use jigs for measuring. I've used a "True Measure" from >> > Golfsmith for many years. I've just noticed that if I measure >> assembled >> > club length using a 48" ruler running down the back of the shaft, with > the >> > club in the playing position, I seem to get different results. At >> least >> > 1/4" longer. I've noticed that if I sole the club properly in the >> True >> > Measure, touching the middle of the sole on the flange, that it >> doesn't >> > appear that the scorelines are parallel to the flange. To accomplish > that >> > parallel, I have to flatten the flange so the club's sole touches the >> > flange much more towards the heel. And oddly enough, it seems to come > out >> > closer to the "ruler down the back" measurement method. >> > >> > Have any of you used the True Measure? Have you noticed any > discrepancies? >> > I just find the True Measure is so convenient versus holding a ruler > down >> > the back of the club. If I just need to build a little fudge factor > into >> > the TM, I'm OK with that. I just want to know that I'm doing what I >> > should be. >> > >> > Thanks for any help. >> > >> > -Andy >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >