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"Junk" box AND in the Inbox from John Muir and a couple others. Odd.
T
From: bl...@charter.net
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Long driver
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:15:30 -0400
Tom,
For some strange reason, all your e-mails are going
directly to my Deleted Items. Don't know why, because you aren't on my blocked
sender list. All the other in-coming Shoptalk e-mail goes to my Shoptalk folder
in my Inbox.
Bernie
bl...@charter.net
----- Original Message -----
From:
Tom
Flanagan
To: shoptalk
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:44
PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Long driver
Howdy Bub;
I built about a dozen versions of long drivers since you started this
topic - how long ago? And before, too. But "before" I was using steel
shafts at 44.5" on wood heads. I had one laminated head in which i drilled a
honeycomb under the sold plate to remove weight. I never got it to a usable
SW
except for if King Kong was swinging it.
That aside, I've built drivers to 48" and down. Found that the most
comfortable for me was at about 46" max. My choppy lurch didn't accommodate
the longer or better timed swing. I simply could not hit them. The last one I
made was a "Bangenstein" HiLoft on a Penley something. 47". Couldn't hit it
at
all. Sold it to a guy who killed it. So I've been reluctant to go to the
extra
long driver.
And I was reluctant to hit the Cleveland, too, as i mentioned, based upon
prior experience. For what ever reason - age, slower swing, more sweep than
hit, don't know - I killed it. 46.5" super light worked for me. So in answer
to your question "Why mess around with the short clubs . . . etc", I guess
it's because this particular one worked. I don't intend to buy one - yet,
even
though the heavily discounted price comes close to what I'd eventually end up
paying to build one.
And this may seem scurrilous to all here, but frankly, I'm getting tired
of screwing around with building clubs. After 50 years of it I'm thinking
I'll
pretty much stick with regripping, bending and reshafting. I have too damn
many "experiments" in my pile of stuff as it is. Gotta get rid of them
Junior golf, here I come.
TFlan
From: bl...@charter.net
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Subject: Re:
ShopTalk: Long driver
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:11:41 -0400
Tom,
Why mess around with the short clubs when you can
go to 48" club length? A 193 gram BOM plugged to 1½" bore depth with a 58
gram
Pure Energy A (about 55 trimmed) and 43 gram Winn Excel midsize comes in at
about 296 grams and D9. If I can swing that at 75, so can you. It's worth 25
to 30 yards beyond what I get with a 45" driver and I seldom miss a fairway
with it. (Of course, I'm seldom over 260 yards with it anymore.) I've made
47"
drivers at D4 for some senior women...plenty of components around to get a
driver in the low D's if you want one there.
For the Rescues (if .370 and low price is
needed), take a look at Monarch Golf's Neon hybrid shafts. On my NF4, I get
the about the same flex numbers as a typical A...at most, a low R. Have
one on a 4-iron hybrid at 1" overlength and it plays, looks and
feels great. Seems like a very good shaft for $9.80, or something like that.
Wanted to make a set with which I could make
better contact with the ball on our dead dry, flat bermuda this time of year,
so just made a normal length 3-7 set of Hireko's XP905 hybrids to go with the
set of XP905 Pro irons I sometimes used. Tried some of Unitech's $8
Prestige 75 A-flex iron shafts in these, matched on FLO to my favorite set's
shafts from Tour Golf (TSLW 300 sheet wrapped A's no longer available). The
Prestige shafts weren't the most consistent that I've had, but matched up OK
and seem to play very well at the range...second time out with them
tomorrow. Ugly gray with yellow graphics, though. :-)
Bernie
bl...@charter.net
----- Original Message -----
From:
Tom
Flanagan
To: shoptalk
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:07
PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Long
driver
I looked at the full force shaft - it's 49 gram uncut. Hell,
I have some 50 and 55 gram shafts here. That 40 gram from Cleveland is
actually 40 gm uncut, a weight I find amazing. The head is a redesigned
Launcher made specifically for the Asian (Japanese) market. The club's been
marketed there for a few months and is selling like crazy. So they
(Cleveland) is trying the U.S. market. The club comes in one style only,
46.5", 12 deg, 40 gram, A flex. If it goes here they'll start offering
different lofts. That's according to the Cleveland rep. The club isn't in
the online catalog yet.
I have a 12 deg Cobra head on a 55 gram shaft now, at 45". It's D4. I
could plug it to 46.5" and add nine SW points, then reduce that with a
jumbo
50 - 54 gram grip, but it's still going to be in the E range.
Guess I'll wait a while to see what comes down the pike.
One thing I am looking for is a set of 3 A flex light weight shafts for
Taylor Rescues. I saw some Graftechs for about $14.00 online.
Got a guy who has 3,4,5 Rescues with S flexes in them. He wants
to go to A flex based on clubs he hit on demo day. I haven't measured the
O.D. of the tips yet so I'm not sure if they're .370's. I suspect they are
though.
TFlan
From: vectorgo...@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:17:39
-0400
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Long driver
To:
ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Greetings TFlan,
How about a nice component head with the 3 wt screws, and then remove
them, http://thegolfcoastonline.com/item.asp?cID=0&PID=644
and pair that up with a Fierce Full Force shaft,
http://thegolfcoastonline.com/Fierce_Full_Force.asp
or Bang shaft,
http://thegolfcoastonline.com/item.asp?cID=58&PID=1041
I even know a guy that could probably get you wholesale pricing on
those components :-)
David
In a message dated 3/22/2009 1:47:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tflans...@hotmail.com writes:
Naturally I started looking for components - 40 gram shafts and
180 deg heads. Couldn't find any. So back to the pro. "How much for that
driver?" $300.00 but for you $250, no tax, no shipping. If you want one
get it now cuz there's very limited stock. Ugh! A dilemma.
Great, surprising club though.
TFlan
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