First of all to all you guys talking about KZG the gemini was a faulty head from the start. They have no more left so they won't replace it any more. For any one that care Steve won his unemployment lawsuit with her and all the crap she spread around trhe industry about him having quit was a load of pure bull.
Now for this handy cap thing. when a course is rated for slope and course rating it is done at a certain distance. A specified yardage for the course. the trees are young and not too tall a lot of the times. The rough is young as well and as developed and narley in a lot of cases. Then the course grow a little older and the trees mature and cut off corners and the thatch in the rough get all tangley. Teh course gets tougher to play as it matures. Tehn you have the guys doing the course setup in the moring putting the red flag up in fron of the green and for some reason they move the tee box forwaard as well. Do this on a few holes and you can take several hundred yarsds off the courses overall distance that the slope and course ratings are based on. This will have an effect on the handicaps for all that play there on a regular basis. We have a course here that has an alternative tee box for one of the par 5s they use once in a while that adds almost 75 yards to the whole. You think that wouldn't change the slope of the course sure it would. Or was the course originally sloped with that tee box and now it's playing easier than the registered slope scewing everyone handi cap on a regular basis? Now add in the human factor of gimmes, mall it agains, pick and place in the middle of the summer sand baggers and the ones that just don't know the rules and ground there clubs in hazards as well as other violations like taking a free drop from a none paved cart path, and what do you really have???? A system that is so subjective that it's not worth a dime. If I were to play Tiger I would first of not bet more thanI could afford to loose play him straight up and hope he shoots one of his 78s. If he beats me which he probably would (unless he hits his driver like he did at the British Open) He will have beaton me because he deserved too. He works harder at than I do! (and by the way once you get under par your a + handy cap numbner not a - number. Just so we don't get people confused.) Basically tournaments should be broken up by age brackets, Handi caps should be tossed and if you want to win so badly work at it. I don't care how old you get (too a point) Put for doe and work on the short game. You will even out with the young whipper snappers, Hell I hit 50 this year I am feeling it. Handy cap systems can't be kept with any integrity and should be used. Now I know there are some folks out there that actually play by the rules but they are still subjecdt to course set up errors. I would bet that about 80% of the handi caps out there are off by 3 to 4 strokes on the low side.try this the next time you play with some one new. Just for kicks try to get them to show you their handi cap card. If you play on a course that has a slope of 118 to 124 a 10 handi capper should play the course at around 12 over. See what he really shoots. I bet you it would be around 15 to 16 over! Sincerely, Robert Devino 14252 Delano St. Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 (818) 908-1691 ________________________________ From: "ontargetg...@comcast.net" <ontargetg...@comcast.net> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:49:19 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: KZG Gemini driver heads KZG only thinks of themselves. I stop doing business with them 6 years ago. Bang is another one that I flushed down the toilet. Pat On Target Golf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taylor Bruce" <beeteeg...@verizon.net> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:51:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: ShopTalk: KZG Gemini driver heads I had a 355 Gemini 1 break and now I can't get anyone to answer the phone or replay to an email. They had some great products but I could not deal with their business model. -bt ___________ Bee Tee Golf Bruce Taylor On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Robert Devino wrote: The Gemini 2, all of them broke just about and the witch knew they were going too and she sold them to you guys any way. Why any one does business with her I will never know???? > >Sincerely, >Robert Devino >14252 Delano St. >Van Nuys, Ca. 91401 >(818) 908-1691 > > > > > ________________________________ From: Don M <d...@mcluckie.net> >To: shopt...@mail.msen.com >Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:04:14 AM >Subject: ShopTalk: KZG Gemini driver heads > > >Robert or anyone, >Which Gemini 460 driver head was prone to breakage, the "I" or the "II"? > >-Don M > > >-- >Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. >Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/ > > >
