On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:07:59PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > > > Please don't misunderstand me. I am not strictly opposed to this. > > However, I think that the first step would be to ask Lorenzo to either > > relinquish the shorewall packages (Andrew and I are both Debian > > developers and he if is not willing/able to maintain or co-maintain the > > packages, I certainly would be; I don't mean to insult you Andrew, I > > just don't want to speak for you without knowing). > > I retired from Debian years ago. > My mistake. You are still in db.debian.org and your last seen was fairly recent. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
> > Failing that, perhaps inviting Lorenzo to be more involved in the > > upstream development would probably result in better packages and also > > Debian more closely tracking the upstream releases. > > > > If we can get that, then it would be possible to just tell people to pin > > their shorewall packages to unstable. If we have a hand in the > > packaging, we can always make sure that the unstable version also works > > in stable. > > This is almost certainly a better idea. Debian's more than just a > bunch of rules; you can't really duplicate what it does in an external > effort. More than anything else, having hundreds of highly skilled > people looking at things is what really makes Debian work the way it > does. There are several measures in place to deal with packages that > are both fast-moving and reasonably reliable, they just need to be > used; it would be straightforward to include shorewall in > volatile-sloppy, for example. > > The package needs either more manpower or more attention, it should be > easy to sort out. The procedure for dealing with these things is > detailed here: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-mia-qa > > Just follow it. These things can usually be sorted out fairly quickly, > so long as somebody (preferably within Debian) kicks the process into > action - it's presumed that if nobody is making any noise about it, it > cannot possibly be important enough to bother with. > > Start by hunting down Lorenzo and finding out what's going on. He's a > relatively new developer and was a student when he signed up; people > like that very frequently graduate and then find they lack time to > work on Debian stuff. > OK. I will approach Lorenzo again. My last few mails and bug report follow-ups have been answered, though. So, he may truly be MIA. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com
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