OK, umm, tried NAT-T  -- no good.  It might be the Linksys clients, but they 
seem to support NAT-T in the documentation.

Is there some kind of option on the interfaces that might be causing this?  
Maybe the traffic control?

Does listing that machine as a provider have strange consequences?

I've even tried (possibly foolishly) too insert in front rules to DNAT -- no 
luck.  Then I tried marking and then DNAT'ing.  Nope.  The server still rejects.

I've determind that it may very well be that this server hates me or I am the 
victim of international mental terrorism/torture.

I'm going to give installing on the firewall a shot, but that mucks up my 
architecture badly between owners of equipment in this data center.

---moving VPN to firewall was successful, but highly undesirable---

Arrrrg, I don't want to move all those construction guys to OpenVPN because 
they are too stupid to use it, even with the cute GUI.

Many thanks again Tom.

Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Neu wrote:
> tried this once before on: Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:43:28 -0800 (PST)
> 

I don't understand why you are seeing the behavior that you are seeing.
OTOH, NAT-T was invented for a reason (the reason being that NAT of IPSEC
doesn't work reliably). So I suggest that you implement NAT-T between these
gateways or move the local gateway to the firewall system.

-Tom
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