Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:42:12PM -0800, Brian Neu wrote:
>> OK, umm, tried NAT-T -- no good.  It might be the Linksys clients,
>> but they seem to support NAT-T in the documentation.
> 
> For what it's worth, it's not just you - having trouble persuading
> third party ipsec clients to work with NAT is normal. Some of them
> just don't, some of them will only do it if you do things to them that
> aren't documented.

To throw in my $0.02, I've been able to get Linux and FreeSWAN taking to 
Checkpoint and Cisco and Cisco talking to Checkpoint but I had to jump 
thru hoops within hoops to get it done.  As standard IPSEC isn't.  Seems 
like everybody has (or had, I haven't used it in about 4 years) their 
own proprietary version of it.

IPSEC is, IMO, the token ring of tunneling and, frankly, I hope it 
shares the same fate.

> (I am very happy that I no longer have to deal with ipsec in any form)

If I believed in any gods I would thank then for every day I don't have 
to use IPSEC.

>> I'm going to give installing on the firewall a shot, but that mucks
>> up my architecture badly between owners of equipment in this data
>> center.
> 
> The 'right' workaround is to get another internet-routable IP address
> assigned for the VPN server. Then you can keep it behind the firewall,
> just don't NAT any of the ipsec traffic. My understanding is that this
> is the approach taken by most people running large ipsec deployments,
> because trying to get NAT to work reliably is such a pain.

I have to agree.  If both ends have routable addresses you can switch to 
AH which, IMO again, is more reliable and easier to work with. 
Especially between different implementations.

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