>>> 
>>> I disagree with this terminology change - there are three states that are
>>> potential outcomes of the process, not two and the proposed terminology
>>> does not accommodate this. I request that no change be made in
>>> terminology.
>> 
>> Geoff, you misunderstood. We proposed varified/unverified/unknown instead of 
>> valid/invalid/unknown.
> 
> I also prefer valid/invalid/unknown.
> 
> I don't believe that the term "unverified" has quite the desired meaning.
> 
> "verified" is a positive assertion ("yup, all ok"), "unknown" is a null 
> ("pass, I have no idea"), and the third state should reflect that it is the 
> _opposite_ of "verified" (ie, *known* to be incorrect), so "verify failed" 
> (or "failed verification", or simply "failed") would, I believe, be more 
> accurate than "unverified"...
> 
> ... at which point, it seems to me that valid/invalid/unknown is less 
> cumbersome.
> 
> 
> To look at it from another angle: If you wanted to order the update in order 
> of preference, you would have to prefer "valid" updates over "unknown", and 
> "unknown" over "invalid".
> 
> [ If you were to base a comparison function for sorting on this DB lookup, I 
> believe it would have to look like this:
> 
>    valid  =  1
>  unknown  =  0
>  invalid  = -1
> ]



This is exactly what is defined in 
draft-pmohapat-sidr-origin-validation-signaling-00, though slightly different 
values:

                  +-------+-----------------------------+
                  | Value | Meaning                     |
                  +-------+-----------------------------+
                  |   0   | Lookup result = "valid"     |
                  |   1   | Lookup result = "not found" |
                  |   2   | Lookup result = "invalid"   |
                  +-------+-----------------------------+

with:

      When comparing a pair of routes for a BGP destination, the route
      with the lowest "validation state" value is preferred.

- Pradosh
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