Hi all,

I wanted to ask how others feel about having resource certificates that
say: "no resources certified."

We have a use case for this at the RIPE NCC. It may happen (for various
reasons) that a member who formerly had a resource certificate issued by
us no longer holds any certifiable resources.

We can of course revoke all existing resource certificate and not issue
a new one. But.. I feel this is confusing to RPs. In particular RPs may
assume, wrongly, that we just forgot to issue a new cert. It's a much
more clear to have a new certificate that says "no resources".

But it seems this is not allowed by the res-cert draft:

We MUST include at least one of "an IP Resources extension, an AS
Resources extension", as described here:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-res-certs-18#section-4.9.10

And that inclusion of an "IPAddressFamily" only gives us the option to
either: (1) include a specific resource(range) of that type, or (2)
inherit from the issuer, as described here:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3779#section-2.2.3

So, we can not legally issue a new resource certificate that says: "no
resources". As far as I can tell this is perfectly legal to do under
rfc3779: just don't include any "IPAddressFamily"; use a "SEQUENCE OF"
with length 0.

So, to re-state my question: do others also see a use-case for resource
certs that have no resources? And if so, could section 4.9.10 of the
res-cert draft be reworded: MUST -> MAY.


Regards,

Tim Bruijnzeels

Senior Software Developer
RIPE NCC
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