(co-chair toe socks off)

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Tim Bruijnzeels <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to ask how others feel about having resource certificates that
> say: "no resources certified."
>
> We have a use case for this at the RIPE NCC. It may happen (for various
> reasons) that a member who formerly had a resource certificate issued by
> us no longer holds any certifiable resources.
>
> We can of course revoke all existing resource certificate and not issue
> a new one. But.. I feel this is confusing to RPs. In particular RPs may
> assume, wrongly, that we just forgot to issue a new cert. It's a much
> more clear to have a new certificate that says "no resources".

For a bgp/routing persp
In either case on the routing device the routes are 'invalid' or
'uncool' or whatever the selected term is... So folks in the routing
system will accept/deny the routes

> But it seems this is not allowed by the res-cert draft:
>
> We MUST include at least one of "an IP Resources extension, an AS
> Resources extension", as described here:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-res-certs-18#section-4.9.10
>
> And that inclusion of an "IPAddressFamily" only gives us the option to
> either: (1) include a specific resource(range) of that type, or (2)
> inherit from the issuer, as described here:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3779#section-2.2.3
>
> So, we can not legally issue a new resource certificate that says: "no
> resources". As far as I can tell this is perfectly legal to do under
> rfc3779: just don't include any "IPAddressFamily"; use a "SEQUENCE OF"
> with length 0.
>
> So, to re-state my question: do others also see a use-case for resource
> certs that have no resources? And if so, could section 4.9.10 of the
> res-cert draft be reworded: MUST -> MAY.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Bruijnzeels
>
> Senior Software Developer
> RIPE NCC
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